Worst Albums On PA?

Polo wrote: I don't get these threads. It's all a matter of taste after all.  But bad taste does exist  Anthony H. wrote: Oh my god, I forgot about Leng T'che. I think that takes the take as the worst. Leng Tch'e is a pretty good album for doom-metal/drone metal/avant-garde enthusiasts. You can only pretend it's bad if you: 1) like neo-prog or Dream Theater or generic prog metal bands that try too hard to imitate DT 2) can't separate art with a sense of originality from meritless copies (see item 1) 3) have bad taste in music (see item 1)

I don't give a goddamn if it's "original." It's unpleasant to listen to. It's pretentious bullsh*t that people only like because it's "avant" and/or "artsy." I understand what they were trying to do, and it still sucks. I have a lot of respect for  Zorn; he's made a lot of great music. But he's made a lot of sh*tty music as well.

Get off of the "originality" high horse. Is the music good? Does it move you in some way? If yes, then who cares if something slightly similar has been done before? I could record myself throwing up and layer it on top of the sounds of machine gun fire. I could say that the album is meant to make the listener "feel like they're in the middle of the war disease causes within the human body." It would be original. But it would also suck.

Okay, so Tony isn't a doom/drone fan either.

Those are some nice reviews.

Leng T'che isn't even particularly "avant-garde," it's about as close to run-of-the-mill dronedoom as a jazz musician could make.

Henry Plainview wrote: Haha, Tony's review is great. I hadn't read Bob's before either, that's pretty epic. Anthony H. wrote: I don't give a goddamn if it's "original." It's unpleasant to listen to. It's pretentious bullsh*t that people only like because it's "avant" and/or "artsy." I understand what they were trying to do, and it still sucks. I have a lot of respect for  Zorn; he's made a lot of great music. But he's made a lot of sh*tty music as well. Get off of the "originality" high horse. Is the music good? Does it move you in some way? If yes, then who cares if something slightly similar has been done before? I could record myself throwing up and layer it on top of the sounds of machine gun fire. I could say that the album is meant to make the listener "feel like they're in the middle of the war disease causes within the human body." It would be original. But it would also suck. Congratulations, you have hit every terrible cliche of arguing against avant-garde music you don't like.

My point is: don't say that I have bad taste simply because I don't like a certain album.

Anthony H. wrote: My point is: don't say that I have bad taste simply because I don't like a certain album.

It sounded like your point was that nobody actually likes Leng Tche.  Although yeah, Marco shouldn't say you have bad taste, but you shouldn't say he does either.

Edited by Triceratopsoil - July 06 2011 at 13:52

Anthony H. wrote: My point is: don't say that I have bad taste simply because I don't like a certain album.

That is the opposite of what I am saying. In fact, it is the Leng T'che haters who are saying that when they say anyone who says they like it must be lying.

Henry Plainview wrote: Anthony H. wrote: My point is: don't say that I have bad taste simply because I don't like a certain album. That is the opposite of what I am saying. In fact, it is the Leng T'che haters who are saying that when they say anyone who says they like it must be lying.

You didn't say it, Marco did. He chalked this whole thread up to subjective taste and then proceeded to pull the "bad taste" card.

Guys, we listen to prog. Don't you realize that we're all the ones with bad taste?

Anthony H. wrote: I never said he did. I'm sure some people genuinely do like it, but I'm also sure that a lot of other people like it for the reasons I mentioned.

Even with your qualification, I still find this accusation rather offensive and impossible to prove. Do you have any logical basis for it other than your dislike?

And Marco was pretty clearly joking.

I prefer SABA to Leng T'che.