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Epignosis wrote: colorofmoney91 wrote: Happy Amurika day, y'all. Go getcha sum cheez bergers. Absolutely! But only if you burn it first. The only way to give citizens real choice is to restrict their options!

colorofmoney91 wrote: Epignosis wrote: colorofmoney91 wrote: Happy Amurika day, y'all. Go getcha sum cheez bergers. Absolutely! But only if you burn it first. The only way to give citizens real choice is to restrict their options! Man, that sucks. But I'm all for teaching people to be healthy. I'd do it if it was actually possible.

For the first link, that ban is rich coming from a state that made its money on tobacco. 

For the second, people act like fast food restaurants are the bane of good health.  That may be the case for a select few, but give me a break- most of us can't afford to eat out all the time, and the reason there are so many fat asses is because we like cookies over vegetables and like PS3 over running around outside.  Unless the government is going to regulate absolutely everything a person buys, cooks, and literally does, there is no way to forcibly curb obesity.  It just can't happen.  What will happen through these measures is a more crippled economy.

progkidjoel wrote: Oh lawd, junk food != obesity. Overeating f**king anything = obesity.  ...Or to rephrase that, Energy in > Energy out = obesity.  Why don't they teach people these simple concepts? It's the same here, harass the sh*t out of the fast food giants and only feed the public ridiculous diets/tactile bullsh*t which never gets to the point and confuses simple concepts which would work for >99% of people, if they were willing.

It isn't that simple here.  We have the USDA and the FDA who instill in all school children this:





It seems sensible, until you realize a few things:

1. That base of the pyramid is actually one of the reasons we have a problem with diabetes.
2. Fats are not the enemy, and why all fats and oils and lumped together with sweets is beyond sense.
3. The USDA created the food pyramid to protect the fiscal interests of...you guessed it- the USDA.

It's like putting car salesmen in charge of the Department of Motor Vehicles.

I've never had any problem with sugars. But I also don't eat refined sugars; all of my sugar comes from the massive mountains of fruit I eat daily.

Edited by colorofmoney91 - July 04 2011 at 08:51

Epignosis wrote: progkidjoel wrote: Oh lawd, junk food != obesity. Overeating f**king anything = obesity.  ...Or to rephrase that, Energy in > Energy out = obesity.  Why don't they teach people these simple concepts? It's the same here, harass the sh*t out of the fast food giants and only feed the public ridiculous diets/tactile bullsh*t which never gets to the point and confuses simple concepts which would work for >99% of people, if they were willing. It isn't that simple here.  We have the USDA and the FDA who instill in all school children this: It seems sensible, until you realize a few things: 1. That base of the pyramid is actually one of the reasons we have a problem with diabetes. 2. Fats are not the enemy, and why all fats and oils and lumped together with sweets is beyond sense. 3. The USDA created the food pyramid to protect the fiscal interests of...you guessed it- the USDA. It's like putting car salesmen in charge of the Department of Motor Vehicles.

http://www.choosemyplate.gov/ 

progkidjoel wrote: Unless someone's body can disobey the simple laws of physics and thermodynamics, the human body cannot maintain mass if it intakes less calories than it requires as maintenance.

There's more to maintaining a healthy weight (or health in general) than just regulating the number of calories taken in and burned.  The body processes different foods in different ways, and these processes affect body weight, fat percentage, and overall health.

@Rob: I wasn't suggesting that a diet can be healthy regardless of the caloric intake, rather that junk food does not make you fat. Someone could easily eat junk food every meal every day and lose weight/fat if their intake was below their maintenance. It wouldn't be healthy, but it's entirely possible.

I personally went the route of low calorie intake to lose over 60 pounds, and now I'm eating a lot more healthy stuff to gain muscle and whatever. So far, it's worked great. I'm 170 pounds with only about 7% body fat.