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Lark the Starless 
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 Posted: June 29 2011 at 20:39 |
^ Holy shirt.
If that were the case here, I would've ditched my car years ago for a Prius.
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JJLehto
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Posted: June 29 2011 at 20:40 |
Yes, my nice fuel efficient Saturn really pays off now 
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Lark the Starless
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Posted: June 29 2011 at 20:45 |
My dad has a Saturn and that thing is small. Not much comfort.  He's offered to give it to me but I've said no.
I'd rather stick to my Grand Marquis, for the ample amount of space.  Plus, I don't know how to drive a stick well enough  |
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June
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Posted: June 30 2011 at 08:01 |
A Corolla. I'm kinda sold to Toyota. The only problem is that I have trouble finding it in parking lots because it's blue and soooooo many people have the same car. My first car was a Dodge Shadow with the engine of a Plymouth Sundance. Then a Ford Tempo. Froze my butt all winter long in those cars, so I don't think I'll ever buy an American car. Then I had a lovely Tercel, man I miss that car, the sound system was amazing in it... 
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Dean
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Posted: June 30 2011 at 08:46 |
 Lark the Starless wrote:
Plus, I don't know how to drive a stick well enough |
Press left-hand "freewheel" peddle, engage "1" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor, release left-hand "freewheel" peddle while pressing right-hand "go" peddle into the carpet, keep pressing "go" peddle into the carpet until engine cries and sounds like it's going to break free of the engine bay, press left-hand "freewheel" peddle and release right-hand "go" peddle, engage "2" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor, release left-hand "freewheel" peddle while pressing right-hand "go" peddle into the carpet, keep pressing "go" peddle into the carpet until engine cries and sounds like it's going to break free of the engine bay, press left-hand "freewheel" peddle and release right-hand "go" peddle, engage "3" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor, release left-hand "freewheel" peddle while pressing right-hand "go" peddle into the carpet, by this time you may have noticed a third peddle between the left-hand "freewheel" peddle and the right-hand "go" peddle, this is called the "stop" peddle, we will refrain from calling this the middle-hand "stop" peddle and just refer to it as the omfg! "stop" peddle", however this should not concern you at this moment in time, but as a precaution it is worth making a note to remember where this is now so that should the need arise for use at some later point in time recourse to the driver's handbook will not be necessary, anyway, where were we... keep pressing "go" peddle into the carpet until engine cries and sounds like it's going to break free of the engine bay, press left-hand "freewheel" peddle and release right-hand "go" peddle, engage "4" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor, release left-hand "freewheel" peddle while pressing right-hand "go" peddle into the carpet, keep pressing "go" peddle into the carpet until engine cries and sounds like it's going to break free of the engine bay, press left-hand "freewheel" peddle and release right-hand "go" peddle, engage "5" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor, release left-hand "freewheel" peddle while pressing right-hand "go" peddle into the carpet, if you are lucky and the stick-like thing growing out of the floor has a number "6" on it then keep pressing "go" peddle into the carpet until engine cries and sounds like it's going to break free of the engine bay, press left-hand "freewheel" peddle and release right-hand "go" peddle, engage "5" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor, release left-hand "freewheel" peddle while pressing right-hand "go" peddle into the carpet, under no circumstances should you engage "R" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor while the vehicle is anything other than stationary otherwise the road will be littered with many disk-like pieces of metal with teeth around the edge called cogs and an further forward motion will become increasingly more difficult.
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topographicbroadways
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Posted: June 30 2011 at 09:24 |
Dean wrote:
Lark the Starless wrote:
Plus, I don't know how to drive a stick well enough |
Press left-hand "freewheel" peddle, engage "1" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor, release left-hand "freewheel" peddle while pressing right-hand "go" peddle into the carpet, keep pressing "go" peddle into the carpet until engine cries and sounds like it's going to break free of the engine bay, press left-hand "freewheel" peddle and release right-hand "go" peddle, engage "2" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor, release left-hand "freewheel" peddle while pressing right-hand "go" peddle into the carpet, keep pressing "go" peddle into the carpet until engine cries and sounds like it's going to break free of the engine bay, press left-hand "freewheel" peddle and release right-hand "go" peddle, engage "3" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor, release left-hand "freewheel" peddle while pressing right-hand "go" peddle into the carpet, by this time you may have noticed a third peddle between the left-hand "freewheel" peddle and the right-hand "go" peddle, this is called the "stop" peddle, we will refrain from calling this the middle-hand "stop" peddle and just refer to it as the omfg! "stop" peddle", however this should not concern you at this moment in time, but as a precaution it is worth making a note to remember where this is now so that should the need arise for use at some later point in time recourse to the driver's handbook will not be necessary, anyway, where were we... keep pressing "go" peddle into the carpet until engine cries and sounds like it's going to break free of the engine bay, press left-hand "freewheel" peddle and release right-hand "go" peddle, engage "4" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor, release left-hand "freewheel" peddle while pressing right-hand "go" peddle into the carpet, keep pressing "go" peddle into the carpet until engine cries and sounds like it's going to break free of the engine bay, press left-hand "freewheel" peddle and release right-hand "go" peddle, engage "5" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor, release left-hand "freewheel" peddle while pressing right-hand "go" peddle into the carpet, if you are lucky and the stick-like thing growing out of the floor has a number "6" on it then keep pressing "go" peddle into the carpet until engine cries and sounds like it's going to break free of the engine bay, press left-hand "freewheel" peddle and release right-hand "go" peddle, engage "5" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor, release left-hand "freewheel" peddle while pressing right-hand "go" peddle into the carpet, under no circumstances should you engage "R" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor while the vehicle is anything other than stationary otherwise the road will be littered with many disk-like pieces of metal with teeth around the edge called cogs and an further forward motion will become increasingly more difficult. |
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CCVP
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Posted: June 30 2011 at 14:21 |
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CCVP
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Posted: June 30 2011 at 14:34 |
Polo wrote:
CCVP wrote:
Atkingani wrote:
Dodge Journey 2010 same model (SXT) and same color of the picture below:
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Tem que ser um magnata do petróleo pra ter um desses aqui |
Eu não acho que magnatas do petróleo têm dinheiro o sufuciente para andar com este carro.
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JJLehto
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Posted: June 30 2011 at 16:19 |
Yeah, some of my taller friends can be a bit...tight in there but I'm short so w/e  Stick? Nah min is automatic, I don't know how to drive a stick. INB4 10 people "OMG driving one is so easy!" yeah...that's because you know how
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sleeper
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Posted: June 30 2011 at 16:34 |
Dean wrote:
Lark the Starless wrote:
Plus, I don't know how to drive a stick well enough |
Press left-hand "freewheel" peddle, engage "1" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor, release left-hand "freewheel" peddle while pressing right-hand "go" peddle into the carpet, keep pressing "go" peddle into the carpet until engine cries and sounds like it's going to break free of the engine bay, press left-hand "freewheel" peddle and release right-hand "go" peddle, engage "2" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor, release left-hand "freewheel" peddle while pressing right-hand "go" peddle into the carpet, keep pressing "go" peddle into the carpet until engine cries and sounds like it's going to break free of the engine bay, press left-hand "freewheel" peddle and release right-hand "go" peddle, engage "3" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor, release left-hand "freewheel" peddle while pressing right-hand "go" peddle into the carpet, by this time you may have noticed a third peddle between the left-hand "freewheel" peddle and the right-hand "go" peddle, this is called the "stop" peddle, we will refrain from calling this the middle-hand "stop" peddle and just refer to it as the omfg! "stop" peddle", however this should not concern you at this moment in time, but as a precaution it is worth making a note to remember where this is now so that should the need arise for use at some later point in time recourse to the driver's handbook will not be necessary, anyway, where were we... keep pressing "go" peddle into the carpet until engine cries and sounds like it's going to break free of the engine bay, press left-hand "freewheel" peddle and release right-hand "go" peddle, engage "4" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor, release left-hand "freewheel" peddle while pressing right-hand "go" peddle into the carpet, keep pressing "go" peddle into the carpet until engine cries and sounds like it's going to break free of the engine bay, press left-hand "freewheel" peddle and release right-hand "go" peddle, engage "5" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor, release left-hand "freewheel" peddle while pressing right-hand "go" peddle into the carpet, if you are lucky and the stick-like thing growing out of the floor has a number "6" on it then keep pressing "go" peddle into the carpet until engine cries and sounds like it's going to break free of the engine bay, press left-hand "freewheel" peddle and release right-hand "go" peddle, engage "5" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor, release left-hand "freewheel" peddle while pressing right-hand "go" peddle into the carpet, under no circumstances should you engage "R" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor while the vehicle is anything other than stationary otherwise the road will be littered with many disk-like pieces of metal with teeth around the edge called cogs and an further forward motion will become increasingly more difficult. |
You forgot to mention heel-and-toeing.
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Atkingani
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Posted: June 30 2011 at 16:41 |
CCVP wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
Lark the Starless wrote:
Gas here is LA is about $3.65 a gallon. Wouldn't know the conversion in pound/litres/etc. |
I've heard that it in Europe it generally equates to what would be 8 or 9 dollars a gallon for us.
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In Brazil the price is about that much as well (in Reais, not dollars, obviously), despite us being self-sufficient in oil. f**king taxes. 
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In Brazil, petrol price is around 1.00-1.15 EUROS per liter; I think it's around 7 USD per gallon. Anyway, the diesel (gas-oil) price is subsidized by those using petrol and costs half the price.
We have also the options for etanol and natural gas (some states) and very recently for electricity (yet experimental).
BTW, Dodge Journey is not for the wealthy. It's half the price of a Toyota Hilux! 
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Dean
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Posted: June 30 2011 at 17:33 |
sleeper wrote:
You forgot to mention heel-and-toeing.
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And of course double de-"freewheel" peddle peddling. I also forgot to explain why the metal disks with teeth around the edge called cogs have teeth around the edge. Heel-and-toeing of course is why the omfg "stop" peddle is there, without the omfg "stop" peddle heel-and-toeing would just be called toeing, (not to be confused with towing), so in a nutshell, that's all there is to it, put your toes on the omfg "stop" peddle and blip the "go" peddle with your heel, while doing really clever things with your other foot on the "freewheel" peddle while wiggling the stick-like thing growing out of the floor around while, (now here's why the cog disk things have teeth), listening to the güiro-like sounds coming from the box under the floor where the cogs (now called gears) are kept - since each of these gear-cogs has a different number of teeth, they make different güiro-like noises, some high tone and some low tone (which is why some drivers refer to them as high and low gears), once you have located a gear-cog with the sound you like, the heel is blipped on the "go" peddle and the another fancy de-"freewheel" peddle peddling action is applied to the "freewheel" peddle, the vehicle with then either lurch forwards at an alarming velocity, or rapidly do the opposite which we technically call decelerate, however since the omfg "stop" peddle and heel-and-toeing is generally only used for dramatic decelerations that push your passenger's chest into the seat belt, it's not something that should concern us at this stage.
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stonebeard
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Posted: June 30 2011 at 17:38 |
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All males in America need to know how to drive a stick shift. I know cars are less of a thing in Europe and so on, but here it needs to be in the canon of Things Guys Must Know.
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JJLehto
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Posted: June 30 2011 at 17:49 |
stonebeard wrote:
All males in America need to know how to drive a stick shift. I know cars are less of a thing in Europe and so on, but here it needs to be in the canon of Things Guys Must Know.
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I assume you're being silly but when I have cared about being typical, especially a "normal guy" I don't know anyone...so unless you want to teach me! Oh, also get me a car that is stick, because I'm not getting rid of mine until that thing is dead!
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CCVP
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Posted: June 30 2011 at 18:00 |
Atkingani wrote:
CCVP wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
Lark the Starless wrote:
Gas here is LA is about $3.65 a gallon. Wouldn't know the conversion in pound/litres/etc. |
I've heard that it in Europe it generally equates to what would be 8 or 9 dollars a gallon for us.
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In Brazil the price is about that much as well (in Reais, not dollars, obviously), despite us being self-sufficient in oil. f**king taxes.
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In Brazil, petrol price is around 1.00-1.15 EUROS per liter; I think it's around 7 USD per gallon. Anyway, the diesel (gas-oil) price is subsidized by those using petrol and costs half the price.
We have also the options for etanol and natural gas (some states) and very recently for electricity (yet experimental).
BTW, Dodge Journey is not for the wealthy. It's half the price of a Toyota Hilux! |
That still ain't cheap.
JJLehto wrote:
Yeah, some of my taller friends can be a bit...tight in there but I'm short so w/e
Stick? Nah min is automatic, I don't know how to drive a stick.
INB4 10 people "OMG driving one is so easy!" yeah...that's because you know how
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It isn't likyou have ever tried to drive a stick shift car. Besides, depending on how's traffic, auto cars are for the best. Many people in the larger cities here are having joint problems because of traffic (you know, from shifting gears a million times or from keeping the shift peddal pressed). Keep in mind cities like São Paulo and Rio have tens of miles of slow traffic each day.
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Lark the Starless
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Posted: June 30 2011 at 18:01 |
Dean wrote:
Lark the Starless wrote:
Plus, I don't know how to drive a stick well enough |
Press left-hand "freewheel" peddle, engage "1" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor, release left-hand "freewheel" peddle while pressing right-hand "go" peddle into the carpet, keep pressing "go" peddle into the carpet until engine cries and sounds like it's going to break free of the engine bay, press left-hand "freewheel" peddle and release right-hand "go" peddle, engage "2" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor, release left-hand "freewheel" peddle while pressing right-hand "go" peddle into the carpet, keep pressing "go" peddle into the carpet until engine cries and sounds like it's going to break free of the engine bay, press left-hand "freewheel" peddle and release right-hand "go" peddle, engage "3" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor, release left-hand "freewheel" peddle while pressing right-hand "go" peddle into the carpet, by this time you may have noticed a third peddle between the left-hand "freewheel" peddle and the right-hand "go" peddle, this is called the "stop" peddle, we will refrain from calling this the middle-hand "stop" peddle and just refer to it as the omfg! "stop" peddle", however this should not concern you at this moment in time, but as a precaution it is worth making a note to remember where this is now so that should the need arise for use at some later point in time recourse to the driver's handbook will not be necessary, anyway, where were we... keep pressing "go" peddle into the carpet until engine cries and sounds like it's going to break free of the engine bay, press left-hand "freewheel" peddle and release right-hand "go" peddle, engage "4" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor, release left-hand "freewheel" peddle while pressing right-hand "go" peddle into the carpet, keep pressing "go" peddle into the carpet until engine cries and sounds like it's going to break free of the engine bay, press left-hand "freewheel" peddle and release right-hand "go" peddle, engage "5" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor, release left-hand "freewheel" peddle while pressing right-hand "go" peddle into the carpet, if you are lucky and the stick-like thing growing out of the floor has a number "6" on it then keep pressing "go" peddle into the carpet until engine cries and sounds like it's going to break free of the engine bay, press left-hand "freewheel" peddle and release right-hand "go" peddle, engage "5" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor, release left-hand "freewheel" peddle while pressing right-hand "go" peddle into the carpet, under no circumstances should you engage "R" on the stick-like thing growing out of the floor while the vehicle is anything other than stationary otherwise the road will be littered with many disk-like pieces of metal with teeth around the edge called cogs and an further forward motion will become increasingly more difficult. |
I am fully aware of the process of driving one, good Dean It just seems tedious to do the aforementioned steps, especially when on a freeway that has spurts of traffic.
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JJLehto
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Posted: June 30 2011 at 18:13 |
Well yeah Caio, no one in my family has had stick before so there was no need! I have no clue, I know there's differences and a laundry list could be compiled for either side but I do not care. My car moves forward, works for me If for whatever reason I needed to learn manual then...I shall. Though I do live in a very congested area and the only time I move in not GO-STOP-GO-STOP is on the highways, which at rush hour are a horrid mess so that would be a pain to deal with in manual.
Edited by JJLehto - June 30 2011 at 18:13
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Atkingani
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Posted: June 30 2011 at 18:23 |
The stick shift is so embedded in our culture that when we are children pretending to drive a car we make the movements of the clutch-and-gas pedals and also the noise of gears being shifted.
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Dean
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Posted: June 30 2011 at 18:40 |
Lark the Starless wrote:
It just seems tedious to do the aforementioned steps, especially when on a freeway that has spurts of traffic. |
Have you got something better to do with your hands and feet while driving? Yes? Well, stop it and concentrate on driving instead. 
JJLehto wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
All males in America need to know how to drive a stick shift. I know cars are less of a thing in Europe and so on, but here it needs to be in the canon of Things Guys Must Know. |
I assume you're being silly but when I have cared about being typical, especially a "normal guy"
I don't know anyone...so unless you want to teach me!
Oh, also get me a car that is stick, because I'm not getting rid of mine until that thing is dead!
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One thing you can't do in the USofA is hire a manual car... aside from the quizical looks you get when you go up to the Hertz desk and ask for a manual, then have to explain that you don't want a book that tells you how to drive, but a car with a manual gearbox: "a stick?" ... "yes, it's got a stick..." ... "we don't rent them" ... "why not?" ... "people drive them in first gear all day" ... "oh, I see... can I have a Mustang?" ... "You sure can. _____(long protracted bit about signing forms and finding driving licence, credit card etc.)____ so, you return the vehicle to us with a full tank of gas, or we charge you two dollars a gallon to fill it" (this was late 2002 btw) ... "two dollars - that's like a quid, a quid a gallon for petrol!" ... "yes, I'm sorry but we charge two dollars a gallon to refill the vehicle" ... "One GB pound for a gallon of petrol..." ... "but if you refill the car before you return it you pay a dollar 50 a gallon, so be sure to full-up before you return the car" ... "two dollars a gallon... cool - I'll return it empty and you can fill it then I don't have to look for a gas station and my hands won't stink of benzine for the whole of the 11 hour filight home - all for 7 bucks extra ... a bargain!"
Edited by Dean - June 30 2011 at 18:42
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JJLehto
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Posted: June 30 2011 at 18:47 |
.... I see? If the thing moves I really don't care
Edited by JJLehto - June 30 2011 at 18:48
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He's offered to give it to me but I've said no.
