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stonebeard
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Posted: June 24 2011 at 10:39 |
Music will never disappear. The sky is falling, these young kinds nowadays, etc.
As a younger person than many here, my "lifetime" may end up being much, much longer than yours. it kind of just depends on the advance of progress in technology, Singularity, affordability of health care and so on.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: June 24 2011 at 10:45 |
Yeah, I would say of the 9 things that music industry will be around for years to come but they will have to captalise on the new download society or it will be wiped out. bands have to use download tech rather than just the CD these days. itunes and other sites are the new corporate music bodies. I noticed that most music i am after is available as a download so why would I waste time hunting for it in a CD shop. Also it is possible to listen to the CD well before its release so we can taste and see for ourselves before forking out the dollars.
Are DVDs going to disappear? Blu Ray may not replace them after all....
Edited by AtomicCrimsonRush - June 24 2011 at 10:45
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: June 24 2011 at 10:47 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
We really don't need to have threads about chain mail... |
This has nothing to do with chain mail
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rushfan4
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Posted: June 24 2011 at 10:48 |
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
Yeah, I would say of the 9 things that music industry will be around for years to come but they will have to captalise on the new download society or it will be wiped out. bands have to use download tech rather than just the CD these days. itunes and other sites are the new corporate music bodies. I noticed that most music i am after is available as a download so why would I waste time hunting for it in a CD shop. Also it is possible to listen to the CD well before its release so we can taste and see for ourselves before forking out the dollars.
Are DVDs going to disappear? Blu Ray may not replace them after all.... |
I think that they are both going to disappear, as on-line rentals will eventually replace them both.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: June 24 2011 at 10:56 |
topographicbroadways wrote:
1-5 are very true.
Music as an industry will never disappear. It will continue to adapt to the things that have put it in jeopardy since the early 20th century. People will always love music and plenty will still buy it. Physical music is definitely on the way out. Which is why I buy C.D's and Vinyl's at every opportunity. It's more satisfying to own physical music than digital music.
I think the point is that the CD you hold in your hand is going to disappear, it will be a download industry and this will kill a lot of recording companies. If the CD disappears, so do the artists who design the cover, the moguls who publish the CDs, the companies that produce them... etc... it kills the industry by becoming accessible for free too.
TV could definitely be on it's way out. At our house we didn't have the money for Satellite last month so we got rid of it and sold our TV the other week. I now live in a Televisionless house and thanks to the internet i've barely noticed.
I agree TV is becoming obsolete. The shows can be accessed online so you can watch what you want when you want, instead of relying on programmed schedules. I can access better viewing than TV on youtube!
Privacy is more at risk with Facebook etc. now, but as long as you're careful you can keep information safe
I like privacy and crave this, but when I am online I know all my details can be accessed at anytime, as most sites, forums or email engines need private details and although the sites claim the details will be kept confidential, we all know that is not true. If a company wants your details badly enough they can access them. If they cant do it there is always a corporation that can. My house can be accessed using Google earth, as can my phone number using white pages. I have nothing to hide but I have to feel for those who do - you simply cannot hide anymore. Your life is an open book... or is that facebook?
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: June 24 2011 at 11:01 |
rushfan4 wrote:
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
Yeah, I would say of the 9 things that music industry will be around for years to come but they will have to captalise on the new download society or it will be wiped out. bands have to use download tech rather than just the CD these days. itunes and other sites are the new corporate music bodies. I noticed that most music i am after is available as a download so why would I waste time hunting for it in a CD shop. Also it is possible to listen to the CD well before its release so we can taste and see for ourselves before forking out the dollars.
Are DVDs going to disappear? Blu Ray may not replace them after all.... | I think that they are both going to disappear, as on-line rentals will eventually replace them both. |
Once again I agree, though rarely use online rental system. I guess just downloading of movies is enough to kill the industry. I still like to buy the TV box sets, there is nothing better than owning a deluxe set of great episodes from a given show. Blu Ray, 3D TV, HD DVD - the industry is trying to keep afloat with these innovative ideas......... its all going the way of the dinosaur of course. Everything is High definition, and surround sound - its lie having a movie theatre in your own home. I am surprised movie theatres are still around.... paying $18 to see a movie that I can rent in a months time and watch on a fair size screen....... it makes little sense to see a movie at the cinema except for the experience of going out with friends, and to enjoy it on a nice big screen.
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: June 24 2011 at 11:15 |
1. Newspapers
2. CD's (video)
3. CD's (music)
4. The stupid idea that "ain't" isn't a word.
5. The idea that two gay people can't be married (unless you happen to be Catholic or Evangelical.)
6. Cussing on TV programs (except for the F word and maybe the two C words)
7. The idea that Huckleberry Finn can be great literature even though it refers to black people as N's
8. The idea that the world will end because the Mayan calendar stops in 2012
9. Any love for either punk or disco.
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The T
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Posted: June 24 2011 at 11:17 |
Obviously, all of this will happen in developed countries like Australia or the US. Don't include developing countries here where some of these things are still 99% popular. It will happen in those two but much later.
1. It will happen. And the world will not collapse because of it. 2. It will happen. And the world will be a better place (the demise of the check has some relation with the demise of the Mail service after all. 3. It will happen. I like newspapers (though they are ful of sh*t), but I can survive without them. The world? Instead of a few focused opinions, people will have access to all types of perspectives in the internet. 4. I don't think books will ever disappear. They will remain for people who want them. Their market share will be surpassed by that of E-books, but physical books will remain. A world without books is a serious problem. See most American youngsters who have never opened one and see why. 5. It will. And good. 6. ???? Even if only stupid music remains, there will ALWAYS be music. 7. Television as an industry will not disappear. As a home appliance it might, though TV makers are adapting to the changes. 8. No. Unless some people have their way, private property will always exist. Now as you are mostly talking about "ownership" of Intelectual-property-protected items, "ownership" is a bad word (you never really "own" anything). You are talking about physical media. It will remain a collector's thing. I will miss it. I will not join the digital train wagon. But the world will not suffer. 9. This is more worrisome. If some people have their way, we'll have cameras everywhere, from apparently-innocent red-light cameras to actual activity-recording cameras.
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: June 24 2011 at 11:20 |
oh darn, you remind me I should have mentioned the death of the post office.
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The T
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Posted: June 24 2011 at 11:20 |
Epignosis wrote:
Wait, the economy of the United States didn't make the list?
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I'll kill the humour here but obviously an economy doesn't disappear, it just collapses. Maybe you are confused with other related things that WILL disappear:
Americans savings accounts Americans 401ks Americans power to purchase anything for less than 100 dollars Americans ability to put gas in their cars Americans ability to buy a house.
(Apply that to many other countries of course)...
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Dalezilla
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Posted: June 24 2011 at 11:20 |
Checks have already disappeared in Finland. Someone sent me one from Canada and they didn't know what to do with it at the bank.
Oh and landlines too. Haven't seen one in Finland for years.
Edited by Dalezilla - June 24 2011 at 11:28
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: June 24 2011 at 11:26 |
Checks are another good one. Landlines will live on vaguely for a while.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: June 24 2011 at 12:09 |
1. The Post Office. Ironically, all that junk mail is both a revenue source and a fact of postal customer life that it may hasten the demise as no one will really care. I still like getting my paper copy bill, but I am slowly and surely paying more stuff online. You can pay at the last minute and not have to worry about it getting there on time.
2. The Check. I still get my paycheck hand written at that. I do expect resistance. Without hard copies it boils down to your word against the computer.
3. The Newspaper. I have a subscription, but then I'm not all that young. The local paper keeps shrinking, first in size and now in content. I still prefer it to reading the online version.
4. The Book. Will be diminished but will hang around for a quite a while past our lifetime. Level of appreciation for the hard copy will increase as they become more rare.
5. The Land Line Telephone. Cell phone signals still suck. We're going to need some major improvements here and no areas where you can't get a signal without an accompanying big jump in price. Don't expect that to happen. There seems to be more collusion than competition in the cell phone industry. I recently tried to get into a cheaper plan as we weren't getting close to using our minutes each month. No flexibility.
6. Music. The industry will diminish no doubt and no one will care. Music itself ain't going anywhere.
7. Television. Networks are diminishing in relation to the other choices. No big surprise there. It won't disappear but computers and TV are basically merging.
8. “Things” That You Own. When it comes to those kind of things I don't want to be beholden to a service to access to those things, I am not alone and I see that kind of thing as an alternative or backup.
9. Privacy. Diminished severely, yes. But it is important to have a certain sphere of privacy.
All we will have that can’t be changed are Memories. How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Dean
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Posted: June 24 2011 at 12:16 |
Already in this thread I'm missing CHEQUES Checks indeed, what ever next ... plack, anteak, brusck, grotesck, obleeck, opake, misteek, torck, statuesk, humouresk, monocock, criteek... ?
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The Truth
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Posted: June 24 2011 at 12:20 |
Oh please, I don't want to sound stupid but on the subject of music... It'll never happen.
Or it might and the change will be extremely gradual and even when it's "gone" or whatever, some group of artists will always keep it alive no matter how dystopian our world will be.
Oh yeah, and not everyone loves e-books. Books will always hang around at least partially, I mean really? I personally can't stand them.
Edited by The Truth - June 24 2011 at 12:22
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Epignosis
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Posted: June 24 2011 at 12:21 |
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
7. The idea that Huckleberry Finn can be great literature even though it refers to black people as N's | This is anachronistic. Would you prefer Twain to have referred to them as "African-Americans?"
(what a stupid, clunky term)
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KoS
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Posted: June 24 2011 at 12:32 |
Editor's change Man to Human in older texts; that's just plain censorship.
Also, I just don't care for physical media anymore.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: June 24 2011 at 12:36 |
Dalezilla wrote:
Checks have already disappeared in Finland. Someone sent me one from Canada and they didn't know what to do with it at the bank.
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I thought cheques were only valid in the country they were issued in. Checks are the main payment instrument in French in situations that aren't like paying in cash or with the card in a shop, or paying online. They aren't going anywhere.
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Padraic
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Posted: June 24 2011 at 12:56 |
Dean wrote:
humouresk |
You mean humoresk.
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Dean
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Posted: June 24 2011 at 12:57 |
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