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    Posted: November 18 2004 at 16:51

Odd...

Am I the only one who thinks that the tune from Marillion's "Kayleigh" (1985) sounds very much like the tune from Pat Benatar's "Love Is A Battlefield" (1983)? My dad and sister agreed with me...

I'm not kidding.  Does anyone else hear it?



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Points: 3525 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2004 at 20:52

Will I be thrown out of the club if I admit I'm much more familliar with "Battlefield" than "Kayleigh"? I know the Benatar tune by heart (which I know for a fact now that you've put into my head, you SOB ) but I had to do something somewhat shady to get Marillion's song to remind me....

On a scale of 1 to 5 (with 1 being a passing resemblance and 5 being out and out plagiarism) they're at least a 3.

The verse structure is identical ( i - vii - v - vi or something like that) which wouldn't be such a big deal (how many I - IV - V songs are there?) except that it's significantly more uncommon. Additionally, the clean clipped chording and side-stick rhythm of the verse is similar, as is the guitar solo (tone as well as style) and it certainly doesn't help that they both have the characteristic 80's style production.

On the other hand, "Battlefield" lacks a distinct chorus section, using a variation of the verse instead, and generally doesn't change much from start to finish; "Kayleigh" has a more traditional, almost anthemic major-key chorus. So I couldn't put it in the 'obvious rip-off' realm, but it's definitely approaching the 'My Sweet Lord/ He's So Fine' category.

But most importantly, Pat used to be a hottie...whereas I never felt any attraction for Fish.
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Points: 3013 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2004 at 21:15
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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2004 at 03:13
Originally posted by James Lee James Lee wrote:

I admit I'm much more familliar with "Battlefield" than "Kayleigh"?

Not surprising - she released it as a single about 57 times in the '80s!

Joren, old chap - welcome back, sir - how's your Dionysis costume?

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Points: 16130 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2004 at 05:26

Hello Joren!

The two songs are vaguely similar if I remember the Pat Benatar tune correctly.

The big difference is the Pat Benatar tune is rubbish and the Marillion tune is a very nice song indeed. In my humble opinion, of course.
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Points: 3300 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2004 at 08:16

The 2 basses have similitudes.

Kim Carnes' Bette Davis eyes and a part on Tangerine Dream - Logos have keyboards similitudes too.



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Points: 6667 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2004 at 08:29

Originally posted by Useful_Idiot Useful_Idiot wrote:

Joren!  How have you been man?

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Joren, old chap - welcome back, sir - how's your Dionysis costume?

More wine!  I'm fine, thanks guys. I haven't visited the forum for a while because I was busy or felt like doing something else... Musicology is interesting, but it can also be difficult, so I really need some time to study each day. In the time I was away, I have still been reading your reviews and seeing how everything was going... I noticed that ProgArchives joined forces with Roger Dean

about Marillion: *cough* ripp-off! Ouch... Now I dislike that band even more...



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Points: 5243 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2004 at 11:55

Cert's gonna whoop ya, boy.

 
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Originally posted by danbo danbo wrote:

Cert's gonna whoop ya, boy.

 

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