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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2011 at 13:01
Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Sorry to insist, but when you choose to start digging live Yes, don't discard keys to ascension. That one's got some of my favourite versions from some of my favourite songs, particularly Starship Trooper (you'll hear it on The Yes Album), Awaken, and Time and a Word. It's got many other of their better songs too, but they don't add so much as this ones... and only Close to the Edge I find less satisfying to the original (but the version on Symphonic is a killer, so if you get that live album too you won't miss CttE so much in a live context).
 
Have now noted 'keys' too! Thanks, Dellinger Smile
Getting both sets of keys is quite an investment but it gives you some of their best live material along with some of their best prost-Rabin studio stuff.  I personally think well of Live at Montreaux for a first live album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2011 at 13:11
Originally posted by ghost_of_morphy ghost_of_morphy wrote:

Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Sorry to insist, but when you choose to start digging live Yes, don't discard keys to ascension. That one's got some of my favourite versions from some of my favourite songs, particularly Starship Trooper (you'll hear it on The Yes Album), Awaken, and Time and a Word. It's got many other of their better songs too, but they don't add so much as this ones... and only Close to the Edge I find less satisfying to the original (but the version on Symphonic is a killer, so if you get that live album too you won't miss CttE so much in a live context).
 
Have now noted 'keys' too! Thanks, Dellinger Smile
Getting both sets of keys is quite an investment but it gives you some of their best live material along with some of their best prost-Rabin studio stuff.  I personally think well of Live at Montreaux for a first live album.


You can now get both parts, plus the DVD and the studio tracks in one convenient package:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Keys-Ascension-4CD-DVD-Yes/dp/B003Q6BSTW
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2011 at 16:47
Yessongs, it has the best versions of pre-Tales albums.





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2011 at 20:09
I'd say if you want to start with their best than its close to the edge. If you want to have the music grow on you and evolve your understanding at the same rate the band was evolving before they screwed up, start with the yes album followed by fragile, close to the edge, tales from topagrpahic oceans and end with relayer. Some say going for the one is good too, I still need to listen to it myself but what I've listened to from what comes after is just horrid.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2011 at 19:42
I definitevely recommend Fragile to start with. Those of us who are of that era, also love Topographic Oceans, which is a little complex, but very recommendable, too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2011 at 00:25
I actually started off with a compilation album called Classic Yes which was originally released back in 1981. It doesn't have Close To The Edge or Perpetual Change but it does have their most celebrated tracks right there like And You And I, Starship Trooper and a live version of Roundabout from 77 (which in my opinion is better than the studio version). I think Classic Yes is an excellent album to start with but if you want an actual LP then Close To The Edge, no doubt about it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2011 at 08:00
A very good start could be (as already suggested by others) the YESSONGS live album, you get a full idea of the music and of their performance skills as a band, in their classic line-up Anderson/Squire/Howe/Wakeman/White
(Bruford left the band during the Close To The Edge tour, he appears in the album in one or two songs only).
I consider all albums from The Yes album to Drama (included), a whole decade 1970-80, as classic Yes Music, with highs and lows but classic Yes. The first two albums and everything released after Drama stand, in my opinion, on a lower level (exception made for various CDs and DVDs containing live concerts which are generally much better than many studio albums). I personally love that the current line-up has rediscovered music from Drama, for too long ignored by the band since Jon Anderson (and probably Rick Wakeman too) didn't like it ... "Fly from here" sounds exciting, I look forward to listening how they have revisited this old Drama ghost track (it was the first song the Buggles brought with them into the Yes realm but never released at last). 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2011 at 09:00
I started with
 
but RECOMMEND AS DEFINITIVE YES the following:
 
 
then got
 
 
then decided to simply get a box set I lov3d them so much
 
 
after that I grabbed
 
 
 
then got all the more recent albums one by one.
 
Newest track from newest album is here!
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2011 at 09:51
I started to listen Yes from first album till Tormato and think that you can listen Yes from first album, ofcourse Fragile - Close to the edge - Tales is band best era but you can start listen Yes from first album because Yes had natural developmnet and there are not so much different in albums ,all first eight albums are very good or perfect.
Thats not case with Pink Floyd because era with Syd Barret is totally different from golden era Dark side - Wish you were here - Animals - Wall, and also Atom heart mother and Medlle wich are somehow intruduction to golden era of Pink Floyd and somehow show how band grew up and start real prog rock.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2011 at 11:37
The Wall IMHO can't be considered within the realm of "golden era" Floyd. A mish-mash of an album that, thank Jesus my Lord and Savior, was salvaged and enhanced by an even better live version years later. I think a couple of albums before Dark Side' could have been included on your golden era-list, and ix-nay on The Wall.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2011 at 11:51
Thats your personal thinking but mostly people view this four albums as golden era of Pink Floyd. I am hardcore fan of Pink Floyd and my favoruite albums are Medlle and Atom Heart Mother but defenitly they are not golden era of Pink Floyd.
I think that problem with Wall is in calling it prog that's why many people don't like this album. But in terms of history of rock this is masterpiece, i will call it rock opera better and if you look from this point of view album is master piece. Because it's not just a album it's interesting story composed in music songs, something that many bands aren't able to do. And at the end it all make sense. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2011 at 15:59
either Fragile or Close To The Edge.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2011 at 05:45
You can't really go wrong with the classic run from The Yes Album through to Going For The One.
 
Tales From Topographic Oceans, although the controversial one, is a wonderful work, in my opinion. It may be slightly flawed in places, but taken a a whole it is superb. Only Yes could have made this music. If you stick with it, it endlessly rewards you. I think it gets a lot of flack as it requires attention and patience, and what's wrong with that. Yes took Progressive Rock to the other side of the cosmos with Tales.
 
Avoid Drama and their 80s/90s output.
 
I'm very happily envious of someone getting into Yes for the first time !


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2011 at 10:56
Drama is half bad/ half good.  I wouldn't say avoid it, but get the all good stuff first.   Consider it when you are thinking about exploring the first two albums (or Tales)  Same for 90125 or Talk.  And you have better grabbed something from the post-Rabin era first.  (excepting Open Your Eyes first, of course.)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2011 at 14:45
I would start with "Fragile" and "Close to the edge"
Two very essensial albums in the Yes cataloge..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2011 at 01:16
All right, after many moons waiting for Yes Album, Fragile & Close to the Edge to arrive in the mail, I have finally had a chance to do some listening over the last week or so, and wanted to share some initial thoughts, and to thank everyone once again for their recommendations.

First up, really enjoying them all. I like Anderson's voice and Steve is a fantastic guitarist who probably deserves even more credit, but perhaps what stands out most in the band, for me as a new listener, is Squires' bass. On these three albums, at least, it's got a distinctive tone, is almost too busy, but remains effective. So he's clearly an integral part of the Yes sound (along with songwriting duties etc). I couldn't imagine, say, 'Roundabout' without him.

I listened to the cds as they hit my mailbox, Yes Album,Fragile and Close to the Edge' (which suited me fine, chronological is best).  In brief, I think Fragile is my least favourite (in that, I liked the others more and didn't dislike Fragile) with several standouts and the interludes not being as memorable for me. With the Yes Album I almost find myself preferring Kaye's style to Wakeman's. 'Yours is No Disgrace' and 'A Venture' were my favourite moments, but it was all pretty great. Unsurprisingly, perhaps, I found Close to the Edge to be a work of art almost - the title track has great passage after great passage and the remaining songs are superb too. I think 'Siberian Khatru' is actually my favouriote 'Yes' piece so far - been thrashing that song a bit, actually.

Anyway, there's my early thoughts - and thanks again for the help! Looking at everyone's Live recommendations next.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2011 at 04:05
I haven't been able to wade through this entire thread, so sorry if this repeast others advice, but I'd start you off with Yessongs. It's where I started, aftera single hearing of CTTE. It has all the classic mid-period tracks and is probably the best live album I've ever heard.
 
Also, don't overlook TFTO. OK, it's overblown in concept and has a few ponderous moments but they are topped by passages of great beauty and power.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2011 at 12:34
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Close To The Edge and Fragile are their highest rated albums and also the only albums to feature the classic line up of Wakeman,Anderson,Bruford,Squire and Howe.
 
Going For The One is where I started and is a very good rounded album that displays what Yes were about and is perhaps a little easier to listen to with hit radio songs Wonderous Stories and the title track.
 
Another highly rated album is Relayer.This was the only album with Patrick Moraz and appeals to those tastes more on the jazz fusion side of things.
 
If you are very brave try Tales From Topographic Oceans!

Hey, someone else started with Going For the One.  Strangely enough it remains my favorite, but I also frequently listen to Yessongs, Tales, and Close to the Edge.

For me though, Awaken is hard to beat...along with Wondrous Stories.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2011 at 13:58
I started with Fragile, which warmed me up for Close to the Edge when I eventually got it. Fragile always has a special place in my heart.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2011 at 14:07
Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

All right, after many moons waiting for Yes Album, Fragile & Close to the Edge to arrive in the mail, I have finally had a chance to do some listening over the last week or so, and wanted to share some initial thoughts, and to thank everyone once again for their recommendations.

First up, really enjoying them all. I like Anderson's voice and Steve is a fantastic guitarist who probably deserves even more credit, but perhaps what stands out most in the band, for me as a new listener, is Squires' bass. On these three albums, at least, it's got a distinctive tone, is almost too busy, but remains effective. So he's clearly an integral part of the Yes sound (along with songwriting duties etc). I couldn't imagine, say, 'Roundabout' without him.

I listened to the cds as they hit my mailbox, Yes Album,Fragile and Close to the Edge' (which suited me fine, chronological is best).  In brief, I think Fragile is my least favourite (in that, I liked the others more and didn't dislike Fragile) with several standouts and the interludes not being as memorable for me. With the Yes Album I almost find myself preferring Kaye's style to Wakeman's. 'Yours is No Disgrace' and 'A Venture' were my favourite moments, but it was all pretty great. Unsurprisingly, perhaps, I found Close to the Edge to be a work of art almost - the title track has great passage after great passage and the remaining songs are superb too. I think 'Siberian Khatru' is actually my favouriote 'Yes' piece so far - been thrashing that song a bit, actually.

Anyway, there's my early thoughts - and thanks again for the help! Looking at everyone's Live recommendations next.

dpr


Good to hear that! I really can't think of listening Yes for the first time! Gees, good times.

Keep listening to them, if you're interested in more, I'd say give a try to Tales From Topographic Oceans. The other definite classic of the 70s Prog, although it has controversy. 
Relayer, on the other hand, is excellent but some can consider it less cohesive. It's probably their most adventurous work, with very slight jazz influences due to keyboard player, Patrick Moraz.

If you like Kaye, which I also do like his playing, Yes' first two albums are not bad at all. Although maybe that's stretching things for someone who just started liking them. Take this advise: if you ever see Time and a Word or the debut cheap, don't doubt in getting them, they're fun and show the Yes' evolution, as well as Kaye's great potential.
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