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topographicbroadways 
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 Posted: June 13 2011 at 19:42 |
It puzzles me how on this album Alan Parsons thought he would try and be The Bee-gees for a couple of song 
And complexity isn't what I would quote about Mustaine's writing. The riffing and playing is far superior to what you find in Metallica. Lyrically I don't think either band is very strong, but I don't listen to thrash for the deep lyrics. And I take Anarrrrchy In The USA over anything on Garage Inc.
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Alitare
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Posted: June 13 2011 at 19:41 |
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Can you rationally and scientifically explain why the songwriting in Wake Up Dead is superior to the songwriting in Orion? What makes the former superior to the latter? Or, what makes Hangar 18 superior to Master of Puppets, cna you explain and tell me what I'm missing?
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JJLehto
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Posted: June 13 2011 at 19:39 |
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2 things:
1: Amazing? No. But more so than Metallica, which was kinda my original point.
2: I love you Dusty but just be warned you have hit Henry territory with me, which means I ignore most to all of your posts.
Just figured I'll save you the energy.
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Alitare
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Posted: June 13 2011 at 19:34 |
Is Devil's Island really your idea of amazing songwriting? How can you think his cover of I Ain't Superstitious or his cover of Anarchy in the UK is superior to...say Master of Puppets' title track? Just seems to me that Metallica put more thought into what they were doing back then. I'm not saying that music needs to be dark, but most of the time Dave just comes off as a silly f**kin' moron. Hello me, it's the real me! what a dumbass. Now, I goddamn hate Metallica's music after 1989, and I don't care about Kill 'em all, and Metallica are far from being my favorite band (they're in the top 100, somewhere near 50th place) but it seems hallucinatory to think that Peace Sells is more complex than Master of Puppets. All Mustaine tried doing was play faster. Metallica's goal wasn't to play as fast as possible.
But at the same time, I have a lot of respect for Marty Friedman, who really transcended the pitiable Megadeth cage. I simply don't understand why exactly you guys think Mustaine was a "good" songwriter. It's not wrong, it just puzzles the sh*t outta me.
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JJLehto
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Posted: June 13 2011 at 19:33 |
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Eh its not the same without Caio.
Why go rage on Metallica and expose their obvious flaws if he's not here to rage?
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A Person
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Posted: June 13 2011 at 19:32 |
 Andyman1125 wrote:
THAT'S TRUE. |
BUT IT WOULD MAKE YOU A TOTAL JERKWAD SO DON'T.
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topographicbroadways
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Posted: June 13 2011 at 19:32 |
JJLehto wrote:
o ur right Mark.
OMG he actually did something before Metallica
Thank goodness.
bai Alan
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Well I rarely have chance to use the Nerd smiley I thought i'd seize my opportunity
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Andy Webb
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Posted: June 13 2011 at 19:31 |
A Person wrote:
Andyman1125 wrote:
A Person wrote:
Andyman1125 wrote:
A Person wrote:
Polo wrote:
DON'T TALK ABOUT MAFIA OUTSIDE MAFIA |
IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHEAT DO IT PRIVATELY PLEASE
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IT WEREN'T CHEATING K
BAD GRAMMAR PURPOSEFUL FOR EMPHASIS
I JUST MADE AN OFFHAND REMARK AND ALAN WENT OFF AND THEN I MADE AN OFFHAND REMARK ON HIS COMMENT ON MY OFFHAND REMARK.
YEA. |
OMG K, BUT SINCE I'M CURRENTLY NOT PLAYING A GAME I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT HOW HARD IT WOULD BE TO DETECT CHEATING ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU KNOW MEMBERS ON MULTIPLE SITES, YOU CAN'T BE SURE WHO IS ALREADY CONNECTED OFF-SITE AND WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TELL WHEN OR IF CHEATING WAS TAKING PLACE VERY EASILY.
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YEA AND IT'S ONLY MAFIA ANYWAY SO JUST PLAY IT CHEATING MAKES IT NOT FUN |
IT COULD BE FUN FOR THE CHEATERS TO MANIPULATE THE GAME TO THEIR ADVANTAGE.
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THAT'S TRUE.
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JJLehto
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Posted: June 13 2011 at 19:30 |
o ur right Mark. OMG he actually did something before Metallica Thank goodness. bai Alan
Edited by JJLehto - June 13 2011 at 19:31
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colorofmoney91
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Posted: June 13 2011 at 19:29 |
Going for a run.
One love.
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topographicbroadways
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Posted: June 13 2011 at 19:29 |
JJLehto wrote:
topographicbroadways wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
colorofmoney91 wrote:
My father had the Black Album blaring in his redneck truck for months. I think that adds to my dislike for Metallica. |
haha! Yeah the Metallica I DO like certainly excludes the black album. So
Mustaine may be an epic douchebag but he is way more talented physically and in terms of songwriting than Metallica. Yes, all of them.
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qft. Megadeth's first 5 albums beat anything Metallica have done |
Yes, I will admit...Mustaine literally lives in Metallica's shadow.
They make a sell out album, he makes Countdown to Extinction.
They try to rebound from their sh*t (St Anger) he makes The World Needs a Hero.
Go back to their thrash roots, he does the same with endgame.
Not that it matters, the Deth is far superior! I do like Countdown waaaaay better than Black Album.
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Pretty sure The World Needs A Hero was before St. Anger 
But yeah true
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JJLehto
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Posted: June 13 2011 at 19:28 |
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I only like a few songs from Countdown, but I disregard everything from Countdown to Hero. |
Agreed 100% 
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colorofmoney91
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Posted: June 13 2011 at 19:27 |
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I only like a few songs from Countdown, but I disregard everything from Countdown to Hero.
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JJLehto
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Posted: June 13 2011 at 19:27 |
colorofmoney91 wrote:
I always thought Megadeth had a certain intelligent/comedic quality that made their music more interesting.
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Well the music is more complex, and has more interesting song structure. Metallica is cool but they are sooooo straight forward. Their most complex stuff really isn't much so, Kirk can't really solo, a lot of their songs are too long. I never got why given their simplicity they are so beloved on PA and 'Deth is given the sh*ts.
Edited by JJLehto - June 13 2011 at 19:27
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A Person
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Posted: June 13 2011 at 19:26 |
Andyman1125 wrote:
A Person wrote:
Andyman1125 wrote:
A Person wrote:
Polo wrote:
DON'T TALK ABOUT MAFIA OUTSIDE MAFIA |
IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHEAT DO IT PRIVATELY PLEASE
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IT WEREN'T CHEATING K
BAD GRAMMAR PURPOSEFUL FOR EMPHASIS
I JUST MADE AN OFFHAND REMARK AND ALAN WENT OFF AND THEN I MADE AN OFFHAND REMARK ON HIS COMMENT ON MY OFFHAND REMARK.
YEA. |
OMG K, BUT SINCE I'M CURRENTLY NOT PLAYING A GAME I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT HOW HARD IT WOULD BE TO DETECT CHEATING ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU KNOW MEMBERS ON MULTIPLE SITES, YOU CAN'T BE SURE WHO IS ALREADY CONNECTED OFF-SITE AND WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TELL WHEN OR IF CHEATING WAS TAKING PLACE VERY EASILY.
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YEA AND IT'S ONLY MAFIA ANYWAY SO JUST PLAY IT CHEATING MAKES IT NOT FUN |
IT COULD BE FUN FOR THE CHEATERS TO MANIPULATE THE GAME TO THEIR ADVANTAGE.
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Andy Webb
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Posted: June 13 2011 at 19:26 |
A Person wrote:
Andyman1125 wrote:
A Person wrote:
Polo wrote:
DON'T TALK ABOUT MAFIA OUTSIDE MAFIA |
IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHEAT DO IT PRIVATELY PLEASE
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IT WEREN'T CHEATING K
BAD GRAMMAR PURPOSEFUL FOR EMPHASIS
I JUST MADE AN OFFHAND REMARK AND ALAN WENT OFF AND THEN I MADE AN OFFHAND REMARK ON HIS COMMENT ON MY OFFHAND REMARK.
YEA. |
OMG K, BUT SINCE I'M CURRENTLY NOT PLAYING A GAME I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT HOW HARD IT WOULD BE TO DETECT CHEATING ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU KNOW MEMBERS ON MULTIPLE SITES, YOU CAN'T BE SURE WHO IS ALREADY CONNECTED OFF-SITE AND WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TELL WHEN OR IF CHEATING WAS TAKING PLACE VERY EASILY.
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YEA AND IT'S ONLY MAFIA ANYWAY SO JUST PLAY IT CHEATING MAKES IT NOT FUN
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A Person
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Posted: June 13 2011 at 19:25 |
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I heard a Megadeath album once.
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JJLehto
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Posted: June 13 2011 at 19:25 |
topographicbroadways wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
colorofmoney91 wrote:
My father had the Black Album blaring in his redneck truck for months. I think that adds to my dislike for Metallica. |
haha! Yeah the Metallica I DO like certainly excludes the black album. So
Mustaine may be an epic douchebag but he is way more talented physically and in terms of songwriting than Metallica. Yes, all of them.
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qft. Megadeth's first 5 albums beat anything Metallica have done |
Yes, I will admit...Mustaine literally lives in Metallica's shadow. They make a sell out album, he makes Countdown to Extinction. They try to rebound from their sh*t (St Anger) he makes The World Needs a Hero. Go back to their thrash roots, he does the same with endgame. Not that it matters, the Deth is far superior! I do like Countdown waaaaay better than Black Album.
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colorofmoney91
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Posted: June 13 2011 at 19:25 |
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I always thought Megadeth had a certain intelligent/comedic quality that made their music more interesting.
Edited by colorofmoney91 - June 13 2011 at 19:25
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JJLehto
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Posted: June 13 2011 at 19:23 |
K dusty lol To be fair...dark? Does music have to be dark?? I never really thought of Megadeth as trying to be very dark. And what the f**k is original? Especially in metal. Wait, you're Dusty...why am I even bothering to respond? Gotta learn to let things go
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