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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2011 at 16:41
Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

Deliverance is a bliss in my ears


it might probably the closest to full tech metal from Opeth, very elaborate and technical songs that goes everywhere spessially the track nr 1

this song is all over the place
 


LOLno. Deliverance is one of their best, no question about it. Besides, if you don't like extreme metal, what are you doing listening Opeth? LOLWink Seriously Aginor, you are one of the most criptic persons I have ever met.

And if you guys REALLY think St. Anger is the epitome of what a bad album is supposed to be, you have never really listened to bad music. EVER.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2011 at 16:44
Deliverance is my 2nd or 3rd fav Opeth. Brilliant stuff.

And yes Caio, no one believes me because "lol everyone hates St Anger but JJ doesnt so he must be trolling" kinda wish they'd try and get past the sh*t instead of lolstorming.

Speaking of which, why do some seem to think this will be Opeth's St Anger? The album fans love to hate?
Between here and people I know personally, the response has been overwhelmingly positive and excited.
Sure, some talk about the odd album cover but sheesh, chillax people....it has even been leaked yet! LOL
Most fans seem excited for a change, and especially one in a less metal direction IMO



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2011 at 17:01
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LOLno. Deliverance is one of their best, no question about it. Besides, if you don't like extreme metal, what are you doing listening Opeth? LOLWink Seriously Aginor, you are one of the most criptic persons I have ever met.

And if you guys REALLY think St. Anger is the epitome of what a bad album is supposed to be, you have never really listened to bad music. EVER.




I think you misunderstood him, by "a bliss in my ears" he meant that he likes it
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2011 at 18:03
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Deliverance is my 2nd or 3rd fav Opeth. Brilliant stuff.

And yes Caio, no one believes me because "lol everyone hates St Anger but JJ doesnt so he must be trolling" kinda wish they'd try and get past the sh*t instead of lolstorming.

Speaking of which, why do some seem to think this will be Opeth's St Anger? The album fans love to hate?
Between here and people I know personally, the response has been overwhelmingly positive and excited.
Sure, some talk about the odd album cover but sheesh, chillax people....it has even been leaked yet! LOL
Most fans seem excited for a change, and especially one in a less metal direction IMO



I wouldn't put it so high up, but among the 5 best, definitely.

And yes, St. Anger is hated because Metallica simply dared to be different and you know fans hate to be outside the confort zone (DT will show you that better than anyone with their last 3 albums). it isn't good, I agree, but really, there are much worse music in the top 20 Billboard at any given time. 

But I believe people are being keen to hate Heriage because of two words out of Ankerfeldt mouth: no metal. That makle all the difference for a headbanger. LOL

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:


LOLno. Deliverance is one of their best, no question about it. Besides, if you don't like extreme metal, what are you doing listening Opeth? LOLWink Seriously Aginor, you are one of the most criptic persons I have ever met.

And if you guys REALLY think St. Anger is the epitome of what a bad album is supposed to be, you have never really listened to bad music. EVER.




I think you misunderstood him, by "a bliss in my ears" he meant that he likes it


LOL, true, sorry 4 that Agi Embarrassed. I thought he was reffering himself to Damnation.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2011 at 18:06
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:



And yes, St. Anger is hated because Metallica simply dared to be different and you know fans hate to be outside the confort zone (DT will show you that better than anyone with their last 3 albums). it isn't good, I agree, but really, there are much worse music in the top 20 Billboard at any given time. 

But I believe people are being keen to hate Heriage because of two words out of Ankerfeldt mouth: no metal. That makle all the difference for a headbanger. LOL



Seriously.

Well, I guess the pure metalheads will hate it but they'll hate any non metal. That's just a given LOL
But most else seem excited about it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2011 at 18:27
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:



And yes, St. Anger is hated because Metallica simply dared to be different and you know fans hate to be outside the confort zone (DT will show you that better than anyone with their last 3 albums). it isn't good, I agree, but really, there are much worse music in the top 20 Billboard at any given time. 

But I believe people are being keen to hate Heriage because of two words out of Ankerfeldt mouth: no metal. That makle all the difference for a headbanger. LOL



Seriously.

Well, I guess the pure metalheads will hate it but they'll hate any non metal. That's just a given LOL
But most else seem excited about it.


Agreed. There was this random dude I met in the line of the POS concert who was basically creaming himself just with the sight of the cover. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2011 at 18:32
LOL!

For the record, the cover threw me a curve ball but I really do like it!
Only complaint was the awful 70's rock thing of having their faces on it...but we all know Akerfeldt loved 70's prog rock so...I look it as a homage to itLOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2011 at 19:04
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LOL!

For the record, the cover threw me a curve ball but I really do like it!
Only complaint was the awful 70's rock thing of having their faces on it...but we all know Akerfeldt loved 70's prog rock so...I look it as a homage to itLOL


Yes, he's basically gay for Pink Floyd




















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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2011 at 19:05
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

LOL!

For the record, the cover threw me a curve ball but I really do like it!
Only complaint was the awful 70's rock thing of having their faces on it...but we all know Akerfeldt loved 70's prog rock so...I look it as a homage to itLOL


Yes, he's basically gay for Pink Floyd




and for Steven Wilson


+ a few others but yes
OH WAIT I SEE THAT DOWN THAR

SW and Mikael have a mutual, heterosexual respect for each other
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2011 at 19:16
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

LOL!

For the record, the cover threw me a curve ball but I really do like it!
Only complaint was the awful 70's rock thing of having their faces on it...but we all know Akerfeldt loved 70's prog rock so...I look it as a homage to itLOL


Yes, he's basically gay for Pink Floyd




and for Steven Wilson


+ a few others but yes
OH WAIT I SEE THAT DOWN THAR

SW and Mikael have a mutual, heterosexual respect for each other


IDK, I have red a rumor somewhere that Wilson was gay, though I couldn't confirm that.

I can live with them being just friends, though. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2011 at 19:24
Don't forget that Dan Swano, and close friend of Mikael, produced their early albums!

Point is: Mikael, Swano and Wilson have a musical three way that I wish I could be part of
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2011 at 19:33
I've heard Dream Theater, so I"m fully able to judge terrible music, and St. Anger is terrible. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2011 at 20:01
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I've heard Dream Theater, so I"m fully able to judge terrible music, and St. Anger is terrible. 


LOL, personal attacks on the internet. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2011 at 20:11
LOL Dream Theater is a person.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2011 at 20:58
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by Stoned420 Stoned420 wrote:

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Damnation and Deliverence make up the two worst albums in Opeth's discography.


Interesting how different people's opinions can be. Those are two of my favorite albums in their discography. Although perhaps you think so highly of the other albums that these lose by default.

Well, I do think very highly of the three preceeding albums, particularly BWP, but I just found that splitting the two sides of Opeth onto seperate albums didnt at all work. Plus, I hate Lopez's inapropriate drumming on Deliverance.


Lopez's drumming on Deliverance is nothing short of brilliant.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2011 at 21:01
Yeah I agree Pat. I didn't catch that comment until you quoted it.
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2011 at 22:06
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by Stoned420 Stoned420 wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:


Damnation and Deliverence make up the two worst albums in Opeth's discography.


Interesting how different people's opinions can be. Those are two of my favorite albums in their discography. Although perhaps you think so highly of the other albums that these lose by default.

Well, I do think very highly of the three preceeding albums, particularly BWP, but I just found that splitting the two sides of Opeth onto seperate albums didnt at all work. Plus, I hate Lopez's inapropriate drumming on Deliverance.


Lopez's drumming on Deliverance is nothing short of brilliant.


Holy sh*t, yeah how'd I miss that one myself?
Inappropriate drumming??
He is one of my all time favorites, therefore you are wrong Tongue

But really....I can't even comprehend how you say that.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2011 at 06:20
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by Stoned420 Stoned420 wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:


Damnation and Deliverence make up the two worst albums in Opeth's discography.


Interesting how different people's opinions can be. Those are two of my favorite albums in their discography. Although perhaps you think so highly of the other albums that these lose by default.

Well, I do think very highly of the three preceeding albums, particularly BWP, but I just found that splitting the two sides of Opeth onto seperate albums didnt at all work. Plus, I hate Lopez's inapropriate drumming on Deliverance.


Lopez's drumming on Deliverance is nothing short of brilliant.


Holy sh*t, yeah how'd I miss that one myself?
Inappropriate drumming??
He is one of my all time favorites, therefore you are wrong Tongue

But really....I can't even comprehend how you say that.

Best example would be the first half of Masters Apprentice, which he completely ruins with his incessant hammering on the kick drum. If he'd actually listened to what the others were doing that would have been a killer track.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2011 at 07:14
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Deliverance is my 2nd or 3rd fav Opeth. Brilliant stuff.

And yes Caio, no one believes me because "lol everyone hates St Anger but JJ doesnt so he must be trolling" kinda wish they'd try and get past the sh*t instead of lolstorming.

Speaking of which, why do some seem to think this will be Opeth's St Anger? The album fans love to hate?
Between here and people I know personally, the response has been overwhelmingly positive and excited.
Sure, some talk about the odd album cover but sheesh, chillax people....it has even been leaked yet! LOL
Most fans seem excited for a change, and especially one in a less metal direction IMO



I wouldn't put it so high up, but among the 5 best, definitely.

And yes, St. Anger is hated because Metallica simply dared to be different and you know fans hate to be outside the confort zone (DT will show you that better than anyone with their last 3 albums). it isn't good, I agree, but really, there are much worse music in the top 20 Billboard at any given time. 

But I believe people are being keen to hate Heriage because of two words out of Ankerfeldt mouth: no metal. That makle all the difference for a headbanger. LOL

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:


LOLno. Deliverance is one of their best, no question about it. Besides, if you don't like extreme metal, what are you doing listening Opeth? LOLWink Seriously Aginor, you are one of the most criptic persons I have ever met.

And if you guys REALLY think St. Anger is the epitome of what a bad album is supposed to be, you have never really listened to bad music. EVER.




I think you misunderstood him, by "a bliss in my ears" he meant that he likes it


LOL, true, sorry 4 that Agi Embarrassed. I thought he was reffering himself to Damnation.
I like to use the word Bliss becouse of this beautifull and honoust short story about love and metaphores, ( had this in british literature class) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bliss_(short_story)
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Nothing they did comes close to the raw, organic brilliance of Orchid. 
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