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For the record, the cover threw me a curve ball but I really do like it! Only
complaint was the awful 70's rock thing of having their faces on
it...but we all know Akerfeldt loved 70's prog rock so...I look it as a
homage to it
Yes, he's basically gay for Pink Floyd
and for Steven Wilson
+ a few others but yes OH WAIT I SEE THAT DOWN THAR
SW and Mikael have a mutual, heterosexual respect for each other
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Posted: June 07 2011 at 19:04
JJLehto wrote:
LOL!
For the record, the cover threw me a curve ball but I really do like it! Only
complaint was the awful 70's rock thing of having their faces on
it...but we all know Akerfeldt loved 70's prog rock so...I look it as a
homage to it
For the record, the cover threw me a curve ball but I really do like it! Only complaint was the awful 70's rock thing of having their faces on it...but we all know Akerfeldt loved 70's prog rock so...I look it as a homage to it
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Posted: June 07 2011 at 18:27
JJLehto wrote:
CCVP wrote:
And yes, St. Anger is hated because Metallica simply dared to be different and you know fans hate to be outside the confort zone (DT will show you that better than anyone with their last 3 albums). it isn't good, I agree, but really, there are much worse music in the top 20 Billboard at any given time.
But I believe people are being keen to hate Heriage because of two words out of Ankerfeldt mouth: no metal. That makle all the difference for a headbanger.
Seriously.
Well, I guess the pure metalheads will hate it but they'll hate any non metal. That's just a given But most else seem excited about it.
Agreed. There was this random dude I met in the line of the POS concert who was basically creaming himself just with the sight of the cover.
And yes, St. Anger is hated because Metallica simply dared to be different and you know fans hate to be outside the confort zone (DT will show you that better than anyone with their last 3 albums). it isn't good, I agree, but really, there are much worse music in the top 20 Billboard at any given time.
But I believe people are being keen to hate Heriage because of two words out of Ankerfeldt mouth: no metal. That makle all the difference for a headbanger.
Seriously.
Well, I guess the pure metalheads will hate it but they'll hate any non metal. That's just a given But most else seem excited about it.
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Posted: June 07 2011 at 18:03
JJLehto wrote:
Deliverance is my 2nd or 3rd fav Opeth. Brilliant stuff.
And yes Caio, no one believes me because "lol everyone hates St Anger but JJ doesnt so he must be trolling" kinda wish they'd try and get past the sh*t instead of lolstorming.
Speaking of which, why do some seem to think this will be Opeth's St Anger? The album fans love to hate? Between here and people I know personally, the response has been overwhelmingly positive and excited. Sure, some talk about the odd album cover but sheesh, chillax people....it has even been leaked yet! Most fans seem excited for a change, and especially one in a less metal direction IMO
I wouldn't put it so high up, but among the 5 best, definitely.
And yes, St. Anger is hated because Metallica simply dared to be different and you know fans hate to be outside the confort zone (DT will show you that better than anyone with their last 3 albums). it isn't good, I agree, but really, there are much worse music in the top 20 Billboard at any given time.
But I believe people are being keen to hate Heriage because of two words out of Ankerfeldt mouth: no metal. That makle all the difference for a headbanger.
Triceratopsoil wrote:
CCVP wrote:
LOLno. Deliverance is one of their best, no question about it.
Besides, if you don't like extreme metal, what are you doing listening
Opeth? Seriously Aginor, you are one of the most criptic persons I have ever met.
And if you guys REALLY think St. Anger is the epitome of what a bad
album is supposed to be, you have never really listened to bad music. EVER.
I think you misunderstood him, by "a bliss in my ears" he meant that he likes it
LOL, true, sorry 4 that Agi . I thought he was reffering himself to Damnation.
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Posted: June 07 2011 at 17:01
CCVP wrote:
LOLno. Deliverance is one of their best, no question about it. Besides, if you don't like extreme metal, what are you doing listening Opeth? Seriously Aginor, you are one of the most criptic persons I have ever met.
And if you guys REALLY think St. Anger is the epitome of what a bad album is supposed to be, you have never really listened to bad music. EVER.
I think you misunderstood him, by "a bliss in my ears" he meant that he likes it
Deliverance is my 2nd or 3rd fav Opeth. Brilliant stuff.
And yes Caio, no one believes me because "lol everyone hates St Anger but JJ doesnt so he must be trolling" kinda wish they'd try and get past the sh*t instead of lolstorming.
Speaking of which, why do some seem to think this will be Opeth's St Anger? The album fans love to hate? Between here and people I know personally, the response has been overwhelmingly positive and excited. Sure, some talk about the odd album cover but sheesh, chillax people....it has even been leaked yet! Most fans seem excited for a change, and especially one in a less metal direction IMO
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Posted: June 07 2011 at 16:41
aginor wrote:
Triceratopsoil wrote:
aginor wrote:
Deliverance is a bliss in my ears
it might probably the closest to full tech metal from Opeth, very elaborate and technical songs that goes everywhere spessially the track nr 1
this song is all over the place
LOLno. Deliverance is one of their best, no question about it. Besides, if you don't like extreme metal, what are you doing listening Opeth? Seriously Aginor, you are one of the most criptic persons I have ever met.
And if you guys REALLY think St. Anger is the epitome of what a bad album is supposed to be, you have never really listened to bad music. EVER.
No way this will be 'incomplete' - Opeth's music doesn't rely on growls, even though Akerfeldt's are some of the best in the business. Looking forward to this, especially since he seems so excited about it. A repeat of Damnation would be a little on the boring side, but it seems like the music here will be less straightforward.
Also I don't know if his growls have been getting worse. Watershed wasn't the best but his vocals killed on Ghost Reveries.
Is there any news regarding the Akerfeldt project with Steve Wilson of Porcupine Tree? I remember hearing something about that a few months back, but then radio silence ...
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Posted: June 06 2011 at 11:20
It really makes me laugh when someone says that Damnation is a prog album.
I think Mikael is doing the correct decision. Watershed was their weakest album since Damnation. His growls are becoming much worse (you can see in the Live at Albert Hall), probably because of too much cigarettes and drinking. If you compare the old growls with the current ones...... much better. Mikael doesn't hold his growls too much anymore like he used to do.
On the other hand, his clean singing has improved so much! That's why I think it is best to make an album with more clean vocals.
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Posted: June 06 2011 at 09:42
Stoned420 wrote:
sleeper wrote:
Damnation and Deliverence make up the two worst albums in Opeth's discography.
Interesting how different people's opinions can be. Those are two of my favorite albums in their discography. Although perhaps you think so highly of the other albums that these lose by default.
Well, I do think very highly of the three preceeding albums, particularly BWP, but I just found that splitting the two sides of Opeth onto seperate albums didnt at all work. Plus, I hate Lopez's inapropriate drumming on Deliverance.
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Posted: June 06 2011 at 09:18
The only way Heritage will be like St. Anger is if it's horrifically bad in almost every way. It might be stylish to pile on them for selling out or whatever, but St. Anger has a special little place in rock suckiness. The lyrics, production, in fact the entire purpose of the album would have to be bad. Playing in the style of your all time favorites is not a bad reason to make an album. Completely selling our your roots to try to make something current was. No comparison.
You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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