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Icarium 
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Posted: May 25 2011 at 03:13 |
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Posted: May 25 2011 at 03:41 |
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To close the album, Roger strikes a big one, Only Because Of You, a calm and sad lament (and album best) that seems aimed at Davies, whose shadow seems float all over this album, when it should've Roger's that should've soared over Brother Where You Bound. So for this first post-split album, Davies takes away the first inning with the outstanding Brother album, despite a meriting Hodgson effort with the present one.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
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prefer lifting our pen
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Posted: May 25 2011 at 14:39 |
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What he said!
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Posted: May 26 2011 at 18:13 |
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I like Roger's solo output more than the post Hodgson era of Supertramp. The reason is that Rick's Supertramp went into a jazzy-bluesy-funky direction, while on In the Eye of the Storm and Open the Door Roger stuck to the compositional techniques, influenced by classical music, that I always liked of the 'old' Supertramp.
And for the poll: Only because of you, but the others are great, too.
Edited by Formentera Lady - May 26 2011 at 18:17
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Posted: May 26 2011 at 18:20 |
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Brothers where you Bound is brilliant though,
Edited by aginor - May 26 2011 at 18:20
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Posted: May 26 2011 at 18:50 |
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I just purchased this vinyl today for $1.99. Looking forward to hearing it.
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Posted: May 26 2011 at 21:01 |
 aginor wrote:
Brothers where you Bound is brilliant though, |
I agree. Except for the funky Cannonball all other songs could have been on a Davies-Hodgson Supertramp album. But obviously during Famous Last Words both composers spared their best tracks for their first albums after the break up. The diversion of Supertramp's style began after Brother Where You Bound.
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 02:42 |
Formentera Lady wrote:
aginor wrote:
Brothers where you Bound is brilliant though, |
I agree. Except for the funky Cannonball all other songs could have been on a Davies-Hodgson Supertramp album. But obviously during Famous Last Words both composers spared their best tracks for their first albums after the break up. The diversion of Supertramp's style began after Brother Where You Bound.
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Yes, I'd agree that Brother is easily the better post-split album (from far, too) , and Davies showed that he could indeed be Hodgson's equal in terms of deeper and more introspective songs >>> Brother doesn't miss Hodgson, but Davies clearly overshadows (involuntarily) Eye Of The Storm..
Roger's general hurt and angst hint that he'd had a lot of personal things (as resentments and bitterness) in his heart, and he tries to exort them in Storm. If you look at Storm's song titles, they can almost all relate to his feelings to Supertramp: it's an extremely painful, sore and bitter album, IMHO... Rick's mood seems almost as bitefull, but he chanels it better on his attacks on society rather than his ex-bandmate.
Actually I have no beef at all with Cannonball (love Davies' bitting vocals and lyrics), because if t had been a once-only groove thing, than things would be perfect. But Cannonball , despite its length, was a radio-hit in North America... (the first of Davies since Goodbye Stranger of Breakfast, which was filled with Hodgson's hits).... So it was probably tempting of Davies to repeat the formula, which he did twice on the poor Bird album and further on.
But for Words, I don't think anyone held back any songs for future releaes (the last two Hodgson tracks are still OK) .... It's clear there are tensions.... but I don't think that they calculated for a split... It was just the group out of steam and under the hangover effect of Breakfast
Edited by Sean Trane - May 27 2011 at 02:45
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 03:32 |
Roger is playing live in Glasgow tomorrow. 
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 05:38 |
The album was not to my taste, but Lover's In The Wind was pretty nice.
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 07:44 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Formentera Lady wrote:
aginor wrote:
Brothers where you Bound is brilliant though, |
I agree. Except for the funky Cannonball all other songs could have been on a Davies-Hodgson Supertramp album. But obviously during Famous Last Words both composers spared their best tracks for their first albums after the break up. The diversion of Supertramp's style began after Brother Where You Bound.
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Yes, I'd agree that Brother is easily the better post-split album (from far, too) , and Davies showed that he could indeed be Hodgson's equal in terms of deeper and more introspective songs >>> Brother doesn't miss Hodgson, but Davies clearly overshadows (involuntarily) Eye Of The Storm..
Roger's general hurt and angst hint that he'd had a lot of personal things (as resentments and bitterness) in his heart, and he tries to exort them in Storm. If you look at Storm's song titles, they can almost all relate to his feelings to Supertramp: it's an extremely painful, sore and bitter album, IMHO... Rick's mood seems almost as bitefull, but he chanels it better on his attacks on society rather than his ex-bandmate.
Actually I have no beef at all with Cannonball (love Davies' bitting vocals and lyrics), because if t had been a once-only groove thing, than things would be perfect. But Cannonball , despite its length, was a radio-hit in North America... (the first of Davies since Goodbye Stranger of Breakfast, which was filled with Hodgson's hits).... So it was probably tempting of Davies to repeat the formula, which he did twice on the poor Bird album and further on.
But for Words, I don't think anyone held back any songs for future releaes (the last two Hodgson tracks are still OK) .... It's clear there are tensions.... but I don't think that they calculated for a split... It was just the group out of steam and under the hangover effect of Breakfast
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Read a bio on Supertramp a while back. If I remember correctly,tensions started after Crime of the century all ready.
Breakup was due to Rick's wife was/became manager of the band at some point.Roger did not want that,so he said it was either her or him to leave.Rick did not want his wife to stop managing so Roger split.
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Shake & bake.
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 09:59 |
Wife/girlfriend becomes manager of the band causing another band member to leave, where have I heard that before? 
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Posted: May 29 2011 at 02:13 |
Easy Livin wrote:
Wife/girlfriend becomes manager of the band causing another band member to leave, where have I heard that before? |
It's like screwing in a tap in the spine of the band.... 
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Posted: June 01 2011 at 06:36 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Easy Livin wrote:
Wife/girlfriend becomes manager of the band causing another band member to leave, where have I heard that before? |
It's like screwing in a tap in the spine of the band.... And what's flowing from the tap? Money? 
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Posted: June 05 2011 at 06:56 |
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He's written some fine songs, but not enough!
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Posted: June 05 2011 at 07:18 |
Not that bad though,  Supertramp+Solo works= a bunch of good songs
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Posted: June 05 2011 at 07:26 |
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I wonder how much he have laying around and how much ends up on a album and I wish he made more studio albums
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Posted: June 11 2011 at 00:24 |
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This was one of my favorite albums in the 90's. Must have heard it about 25 times or more.
Only Because of You is probably my fav. track on it but I had to score one for In Jeopardy because
it's a great, great track
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Posted: June 12 2011 at 15:14 |
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In the eye of the storm is not the only album, Open the door is worth listening too
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Posted: June 13 2011 at 15:13 |
Formentera Lady wrote:
I like Roger's solo output more than the post Hodgson era of Supertramp. The reason is that Rick's Supertramp went into a jazzy-bluesy-funky direction, while on In the Eye of the Storm and Open the Door Roger stuck to the compositional techniques, influenced by classical music, that I always liked of the 'old' Supertramp.
And for the poll: Only because of you, but the others are great, too.
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but what would you say is the core essence of Rogers music, everyone have it easy to explayn Ricks style (jazzy-bluesy-funky), but what genre is Rogers consist of ( i am tired of hearing "that typical old SP sound" i think Rogers sound is as neuanced and defining as Ricks, while Ricks songs are heavyer, harder and darker bluesy, jazzy and more direct, Roger is mysterious, calm and reflected, with folk, psych and more of the poppy jazz sound,
Edited by aginor - June 13 2011 at 15:13
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