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the musical box
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Topic: Zeppelins Prog Songs Posted: November 18 2004 at 08:37 |
Instead of arguing about the Zep and weather or not they are prog, lets just have this thread to talk about our love for the songs that are prog. Its one's opinion if they consider Zeppelin prog and lets just leave it at that...
My fave Prog Zep would be:
Achilles Last Stand
Battle Of Evermore
Kashmir
No Quarter (Song Remains THe Same version)
Dazed And Confused (Song Remains The Same Version) I think that this version is accualy there most prog they ever showed. Especially their amazing rendition of Scott Mckenzie's "San Fransisco" (for all you guitar players out there, the prelude to that section is acuaally the riff from the "I know the way, know the way, know the way, know the way..." section from "Achilles Last Stand" slowed down, which sounds amazing. The Bow solo also is also in my opinion one of the greatest moments in music history!
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HaroldTheBarrel
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Posted: November 18 2004 at 08:57 |
I'd have to agree with you on your choices. Out of the album versions of songs, I'd say that Achille's Last Stand is the most prog> (MY KEYBOARD JUST BECAME MESSED UP< SO EXCUSE THE REST OF THIS MESSAGE)> ALL OF MY LOVE IS VERY PROG> ALL OF "SONG REMAINS THE SAME" IS FABULOUS>>> YEAH!
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Your friends have been broken. They've told us of your poison.
Now we k now.
KILL THEM!
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the musical box
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Posted: November 18 2004 at 09:05 |
ALL OF MY LOVE IS VERY PROG
oops, forgot about that one...
i think it may even be my fave Zep track, its so powerfull and moving. THat whole album has an amazing sound unlike any other Zeppelin, it was more of a "Jonesy" album. but seriously, john Paul Jones' keyboard and classical guitar solos in that song blow me away. Its also evidence that Robert Plant was one of the most powerfull singers around, even when he was starting to lose his voice at this time. You can really tell the group was very emotionally involved on this track.
PICK UP In Through The out Door!
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Dick Heath
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Posted: November 18 2004 at 10:55 |
the musical box wrote:
My fave Prog Zep would be:
Kashmir
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One of my favourite LZ tunes - proggie in the sense of being approx 2 parts heavy blues rock and half a part Indian. Interestingly a tune that stands considerable rearrangement , as on the 1 part rock/1 part Egyptian Arabic with Plant and Page's No Quarter version, or 100% jazz funk by the (former RTF drummer) Lenny White's, late 90's jazz funk deconstruct on his Edge album (to me, this just wins over the No Quarter version). There is a rather strange (but interesting), new avante jazz version on a Joshua Roseman album.
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yarstruly
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Posted: November 18 2004 at 11:49 |
The Song Remains the Same
10 Years Gone
Acilles Last Stand
Carouselramba
Fool in the Rain
South Bound Suarez
Kashmir (Especially the Page & Plant version)
Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You
What Is & What Should Never Be
Friends
Quite a few...If you are open minded enough to listen for it :D
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Posted: November 18 2004 at 13:28 |
tool have done an incredible cover version of no quarter, extending it to 11 minutes with added proggier sections. that has to be the best cover song i have ever heard. well worth checking out.
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Posted: November 18 2004 at 16:15 |
I like led zepplin alot, and I own the song remains the same, but I hate the bow solo with a passion!
"AWESOME! HEY LOOK! HE'S PLAYING HIS INSTRUMENT THE WRONG WAY! AND IT SOUNDS LIKE CRAP! WIKID!"
...ugh...
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Blacksword
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Posted: November 18 2004 at 16:16 |
No Quarter (Song remains the same version )
Rain Song (Love that mellotron)
Achilles Lasts stand
Cant really add to what been said. Zep were one of the greatest 'rock' bands of the 70's, with a few well placed prog tendancies.
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AngelRat
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Posted: November 18 2004 at 17:23 |
Zep rules...but prog? They used a mellotron once. Does that make 'em prog? I don't think so. 'Kashmir' has Arabian elements, but the song is actually quite repetitive. 'Achilles' is just long.
I think they're no more prog than Black Sabbath. Or Deep Purple for f**k's sake.
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Joren
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Posted: November 18 2004 at 17:31 |
AngelRat wrote:
Zep rules...but prog? They used a mellotron once. Does that make 'em prog? I don't think so. 'Kashmir' has Arabian elements, but the song is actually quite repetitive. 'Achilles' is just long.
I think they're no more prog than Black Sabbath. Or Deep Purple for f**k's sake.
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I agree
(weer keihard aan het relaxen? )
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Posted: November 18 2004 at 21:48 |
'No Quarter' is my favourite kind-of-proggy song by LZ: somber, texturial, evocative, ethereal, well-conmstructed.
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Posted: November 20 2004 at 06:47 |
In The Light from Physical Grafitti is one of the longest Zeppelin songs and one of my faves.
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Joren
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Posted: November 20 2004 at 13:51 |
Led Zeppelin is prog. And The Ramones are prog too!
Blitzkrieg prog Sheena is a prog rocker
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Posted: November 21 2004 at 10:26 |
Joren wrote:
Led Zeppelin is prog. And The Ramones are prog too!
Blitzkrieg prog Sheena is a prog rocker |
Back in the seventies when I began collecting music the progressive rock sections in the retail music stores contained everythin from Fleetwood Mac to Yes. So I guess the term , who's definition nobody on this site can agree with, has acquired different meanings for different people. Most of my friends refer to my music as weird stuff. Before joining this site I would myself reply to people who would ask me what I listened to " Oh, just a lot weird s*** you've probably never even heard of".
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Dick Heath
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Posted: November 21 2004 at 11:05 |
In 1972 a friend who was devoted fan of Led Zep (but
also Tom Paxton.............), called my collection of Soft Machine,
Yes, Crimson etc. "w**kers Music" . LZ output up to the time would not
be called prog.
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Posted: November 21 2004 at 11:53 |
Why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh why?
Das kann ich nicht glauben, mutti!
Led Zep's prog songs... erm..
The sound of barrel-scraping echoes stridently throughout the prog archives forum.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: November 21 2004 at 14:19 |
I don't think there has been any suggestion in this thread that LZ are prog, TMB was just asking what individual tracks they had done which might be considered prog(like).
We've acknowledged in the past that many bands who are not prog have done the occasion prog stuff, LZ are no different. I think the tracks which have been suggested already are good examples. I agree entirely they are not a prog band, but that does not mean they have never done anything progressive.
It's interesting by the way that self confessed LZ clones Rush appear to be considered prog without question.
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Posted: November 21 2004 at 14:23 |
^
Yeah and butter comes from milk.
Diamonds from carbon.*
All babies look the same...till they grow up.
PS * dont bore me as to how carbon and diamond are atomically the same etc I know, I know
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Posted: November 21 2004 at 14:27 |
Easy Livin wrote:
It's interesting by the way that self confessed LZ clones Rush appear to be considered prog without question.
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....so true,so true!
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Posted: November 21 2004 at 14:28 |
OK. In my humble opinion, Zep, being an incredible blues-metal-rock band, have produced their share of prog type tunes. I will add a few to Musical Box's list:
Misty Mountain Hop, Hangman, even Celebration Day. I am sure there are others but they escape me right now. happy trails.
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