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I liked the new Jacula but I agree, I am too attached to their previous releases. LOL I mostly miss the organ driven sound, I think.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lizzy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2011 at 15:21
That overwhelming church organ was the element that made Jacula unique.
(also, I was not impressed with Summereve either Embarrassed)
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And those haunting vocals from Doris, with the flute in that one track, then Charles coming in with the church organ.  Fabulous.  Charles Tiring, the organist, is long passed now, and Doris did not participate for some reason.  the keys were performed by Bartoccetti's son. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lizzy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2011 at 15:31
I did not realize Tiring was not among us anymore. Sad to hear that. As for Doris, I was not exactly fond of her vocal timbre, but for some reason it works in that context.
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Yeah, Charles was like 35 years older than the others as I recall.  He was almost 70 in the mid 1970s.  Both him and the drummer from the early Rex years are said to have perished under "strange circumstances" but you'll have to do your own reseach if interested, I just remember reading that somewhere, probably on the Rex site.  which is a fun site, looks like a big castle, check it out. 

And Doris, for those not in the know, is the wife and co-creator of Bartoccetti. RexAnthony is their son.  It's a family affair. 
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  I am supposed to receive their albums next week and an interview is still on the cards too. But New Age ? I hope these albums are not nod-nod-zzzz New Age drivel. I have suffered enough.   

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I think you'll enjoy them Torodd.  
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Apologies to Chris for not getting to this earlier.  We approved a very cool band called Ianva, and Chris did a fantastic job on this addition.  Do check out the Bio and his review.

 

Huge clappies Chris!!   ClapClapClap

 

Ianva!

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Originally posted by Lizzy Lizzy wrote:

That overwhelming church organ was the element that made Jacula unique.
(also, I was not impressed with Summereve either Embarrassed)
 
 Lizzy, you may want to check out Three Monks for some great church organ if you haven't already done so. They're here on the site.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Nightfly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2011 at 12:38
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Apologies to Chris for not getting to this earlier.  We approved a very cool band called Ianva, and Chris did a fantastic job on this addition.  Do check out the Bio and his review.

 

Huge clappies Chris!!   ClapClapClap

 

Ianva!

 
Indeed, excellent work Chris. Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:



Interesting, so, 'hot potato' in the sense that not everyone feels it should be a separate genre? (& aren't genres & labels fun!)
 
Exactly, there's an argument that the bands should be split between the existing genres and why should Italy have it's own genre but the RPI purists - and that's not just us here on PA, consider that RPI has it's own sound making it a genre in it's own right. There's a misconception that if a bands Italian and they prog then they will automatically be accepted in the RPI genre but that's certainly not the case as you may notice plenty of of Italian prog bands here on PA in different genres. Take a band like The Watch for example; a band clearly influenced by Genesis and bearing none of the RPI characteristics. That's why they're in neo and not RPI.


Ah! Thanks Nightfly. WIth my limited RPI experience (only 16 albums in so far) I think that there is a clear difference between it and other progressive works (of which other styles I've been listening to longer) And RPI doesn't feel like an indefinable quality either (though I wouldn't presume to go into it myself, as it's bee done better than I in various places, including here) but I would have found those discussions interesting. I will search the forum and see if I can find anything, thank you
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Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Exactly, many people will claim there is no "Italian sound" characteristics and that we are grouping bands here simply on geography.  They are wrong.  But I have stopped arguing with them a long time ago because it is fruitless.  Now, I would simply say, listen to a few hundred RPI albums from the 70s and decide for yourself whether the collective feel of the albums is distinct, beyond just the language.  Many of us here and on other sites feel the classification is very justified, and others do not.  So be it.  At the end of the day, it's just a further way to help listeners find a specific kind of prog they have an interest in, and for providing that, Max deserves to be commended for approving the grouping.  And Micky, Raff, Andrea and others deserve the biggest Kudos for understanding RPI and kicking open the door when I'm certain they took a lot of flak for it. 

But don't worry about all that crap, which is what genre objections are.  Just enjoy the music!Smile


Cool, so now I know who else, aside from everyone here right now, who to thank for RPI being given it's own identity (in regards to a genre) as, at the very least, as an organisational tool, it is very helpful when searching and trying to expand your collection.

And to that end, thank you also, for all your recommendations, Jim, awesome. Much to investigate.

And to everyone else here who's ever posted a review on the site (RPI & otherwise), you rock. Makes my life better, as you've introduced me to over a dozen groups/albums! Smile
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Hi,
 
I'm very happy to see IANVA getting some attention at last!!!!!
 
They deserve it a lot, both their albums are marvelous and very unique in their mix of styles.
 
Among the most fascinating dicoveries in music for ne in the last time.
 
 
Three Monks was just rereleased by Black Widow (with a different cover). So there you can get your fix of church organ overkill!
 
Also looking forward to this one:
 
WICKED MINDS
VISIONI, DELIRI E ILLUSIONI - TRIBUTE TO ITALIAN PROG
VÖ: 06.06.2011 Again and again Wicked Minds confirm their brilliant attitude to a perfect 70s feeling but this time, even if they are considered most Uriah Heep and Deep Purple influenced, they play a tribute to 70s Italian Prog, not a standard tribute but a real challenge against themeselves, trying to find the perfect compromise between Wicked Minds style and the original essence of the tracks they interpret with the help of some of the original members as Lino Vairetti (Osanna), Martin Grice (Delirium), Sophya Baccini (who sings New Trolls and Circus 2000 songs), Aldo Tagliapietra (Le Orme), Antonio Bartoccetti (Dietro Noi Deserto, Antonius Rex, Jacula), Stefano “Lupo” Galifi (Museo Rosenbach)...an ambitious work which will not disappoint all 70s prog fans, a great music party which let you dive in the best pages of 70s Italian Prog.
Keep on progging.
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Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

 Lizzy, you may want to check out Three Monks for some great church organ if you haven't already done so. They're here on the site.

Well don't mind if I do. Thanks!Big smile
Ianva look promising as well.
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 Not an essential album IMO but a good late entry of the seventies wave. Nice review Clap
 
 Forse Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Più by LOCANDA DELLE FATE album cover Studio Album, 1977
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Locanda Delle Fate Rock Progressivo Italiano

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4 stars In three words, 'a beautiful album.' Not necessarily daring, nor wild, but truly accomplished.

Locanda Delle Fate's Forse Le Lucciole... is a cohesive and thoughtful collection of songs that displays fine musicianship all around, and the usual wonderful melodrama expected from classic RPI. One of the more soothing albums out there, it's not going to be your cup of tea if you like a lot of grit or agression in your prog.

Opening strong, with the two best tracks, 'A volte...' and 'Forse...' we have a promising two-punch. The stirring piano and tight kit work throughout 'A volte' make up one of my favourite moments in progressive rock, and it's the perfect instrumental introduction to the band. Melodic and richly textured, it's a treat for keyboard lovers - as is the rest of the album. 'Forse...' starts in ballad mode and we get our first taste of Leonardo Sasso's warm voice. It isn't until halfway through the song that he allows some fire to enter his performance, and it is all the better for it.

Generally, the harder moments are reserved for guitar and drums, and are scattered throughout each song, but are produced so cleanly that they loose some edge. Whereas flute is mostly employed for quieter moments, the wall of keyboards are used to add effective texture or to take the lead. While never becoming frenzied, there's always something interesting going on from the synths, moog and the piano especially,

As has already been stated by many, this album looses some steam in its second half, despite some memorable guitar toward the end in 'Vendesi saggezza' and the great 'Sogno di Estunno' (my pick of the second half) with its energy, concision and excellent transitions.

Perhaps the chief issue for many with the record, is that it can be a little treacly overall - basically the whole collection of songs have so many moments of beauty that is can overwhelm you.

Only 4 stars if you like gentler progressive music, otherwise a 3.

(As a side note, bonus track 'New York' doesn't really fit the feel of the rest of the album.)



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Originally posted by Lizzy Lizzy wrote:

Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

 Lizzy, you may want to check out Three Monks for some great church organ if you haven't already done so. They're here on the site.

Well don't mind if I do. Thanks!Big smile
Ianva look promising as well.



Lizzy, if you love the heavy organ sound and classical music influence, you will love the Three Monks.  Smile
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Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

 Not an essential album IMO but a good late entry of the seventies wave. Nice review Clap
 
 

Thanks, Nightfly! I've been reviewing a few albums, nice to see someone notice one :)  Reviewing the things you love, and trying to be objective is damn tough. As tough as I feared it would be, but still, finding it a good challenge.

So for you, what do you think is the key downfall? The syrup? I always finish listening to it and think, damn, I wish that they'd blasted a hole in the sky with even one song there! But I do love the opener.

And I loved this opening line from Jim's review "The very best of Italy, or elevator prog?" I can definitely see that! (though if I ever heard prog in any elevator I'd have to find the building manager and shake their hand or something hahaha)


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I've been listening to Semiramis for about two months now, and it's quickly becoming one of my favorites.

I'm thinking about ordering Three Monks' debut album as well. The concept sounds wonderful.
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^ You won't regret it. Smile

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Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

 Not an essential album IMO but a good late entry of the seventies wave. Nice review Clap
 
 

So for you, what do you think is the key downfall? The syrup? I always finish listening to it and think, damn, I wish that they'd blasted a hole in the sky with even one song there! But I do love the opener.

 
Yes, that's pretty much it really, a very nice album but just a little too tame for its own good at times. I do have a preference for the wilder stuff.
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