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dreadpirateroberts
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Will do, thank you! :) Very kind of em to make the releases free, I've had a quick read up and looking forward to it. I feel almost guilty downloading the albums, but I can console myself with the idea that I would no doubt pay to see them live if I get to Italy!
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Finnforest
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Lizzy, I really enjoyed your review! I can't wait to read your thoughts on the 2nd one.
Voci Luciano Basso Rock Progressivo Italiano Review by Lizzy
With the patience and craftsmanship of a jeweller had il grande maestro, Luciano Basso, managed to
create and then polish this peerless diamond that is his debut album. Cleverly entitled Voci,
the record generates esoterical soundscape networks that connect the classical influences with early
Italian progressive musical ranges along with Basso's imaginative input and thus creating an oeuvre
worthy of the masterpiece status.
The album is divided into two main parts. The first one has a concerto-like structure with Preludio debuting with piano strains shortly accompanied by the violin with noticeable Vivaldi-esque embellishments at times, and developing a main theme, a custom that will spring in all the following album tracks. The musical extent evokes a lamenting sensation, in spite of the guitar which makes its presence felt, as it immediately mingles into the melody's establishment. However with the masterfully executed rhythm section, bass and drums, and the occasional inflictions of the composition, the living sounds that Basso tried to transpose into voices seem to timidly suggest that there still is hope. The proof of this does not linger, as Promenade I bursts into a very alert organ driven catchy tune supported by the bass and drums in the background. Highlighting the track on the other hand, is the entrancing play between the harpsichord and clavinet chasing each other to the point that one gets ahead until the main theme is resumed making way for Promenade II. Having a rather symmetrical composition, this third track graces our ears with a very fluid piano sound backed up by the ever so clean bass guitar and with what is now the obligatory catchy theme, all wrapped up in a barely perceptible jazzy attire. The title track which marks the beginning of the second part embarks on a splendid display of virtuosity on the grand piano, which lures the listener into a dreamy setting for little over ten minutes, where tension and ease are conjured up alternately with guitar, piano and drums which occur in the foreground. Echo, possibly the most ambitious and elegant song on the album, teleports the listener form the Voci dimension to a preternatural level where a heavenly female choir is taken over by a dramatically building piano score which erupts into the guitar induced echo chorus. This alternates twice throughout the composition with an interesting jazzy segment, the two appearing to be connected musically, but not thematically. Last but not least, the bonus track and the odd one out, but only because of its very poor recording - Mignon - resumes the alert theme from Promenade I giving the album more cohesion. In conclusion, although Voci is an album which does not explore the outskirts of its much standardised structure, this is exactly what makes it stand out and also a worthy candidate to challenge Il Tempo Della Gioia's crown as the ultimate RPI masterpiece. Edited by Finnforest - May 29 2011 at 14:29 |
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toroddfuglesteg
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Ochestre Celeste has just released a new free download album + their two first albums is also free downloads. The music is a crossover between RPI and symph prog, I have been assured. Well, free = check it out yourself if you can afford it. ......and please review the albums after giving them some spins..... through your CPU and RAM Edited by toroddfuglesteg - May 30 2011 at 00:00 |
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Finnforest
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Let's recommend some classic 70s lesser-knowns than the big 3, there's so many to get to....
De De Lind Rocky's Filj Officina Meccanica Festa Mobile Alphataurus Luciano Basso Campo di Marte Cervello Corte dei Miracoli Jumbo Latte Miele Metamorfosi Paese dei Balocchi Mario Panseri Pholas Dactylus Procession QVL Semiramis Rustichelli Bordini Stefano Testa Nuova Idea Panna Fredda Alusa Fallax Delirium Apoteosi J.E.T. Edgar Allen Poe Odissea Nascita della Sfera RDM Giganti Gian Pieretti Wow, that was just off the cuff. I really need to pull out some classics and lose myself for a few days Edited by Finnforest - May 30 2011 at 10:49 |
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Nightfly
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Exactly, there's an argument that the bands should be split between the existing genres and why should Italy have it's own genre but the RPI purists - and that's not just us here on PA, consider that RPI has it's own sound making it a genre in it's own right. There's a misconception that if a bands Italian and they prog then they will automatically be accepted in the RPI genre but that's certainly not the case as you may notice plenty of of Italian prog bands here on PA in different genres. Take a band like The Watch for example; a band clearly influenced by Genesis and bearing none of the RPI characteristics. That's why they're in neo and not RPI.
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Nightfly
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^^^^ Excellent review of Voci Lizzy. As it happens I was considering reviewing that album myself tonight but I think I'll leave it a while now and give it a bit more exposure at a later date. Besides i don't want my review to look bad next to yours.
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Finnforest
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Exactly, many people will claim there is no "Italian sound" characteristics and that we are grouping bands here simply on geography. They are wrong. But I have stopped arguing with them a long time ago because it is fruitless. Now, I would simply say, listen to a few hundred RPI albums from the 70s and decide for yourself whether the collective feel of the albums is distinct, beyond just the language. Many of us here and on other sites feel the classification is very justified, and others do not. So be it. At the end of the day, it's just a further way to help listeners find a specific kind of prog they have an interest in, and for providing that, Max deserves to be commended for approving the grouping. And Micky, Raff, Andrea and others deserve the biggest Kudos for understanding RPI and kicking open the door when I'm certain they took a lot of flak for it.
But don't worry about all that crap, which is what genre objections are. Just enjoy the music! |
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Nightfly
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Excellent stuff Jim and but I'll have to add Biglietto Per L'Inferno, Area, Museo Rosenbach, Maxophone and Raccomandata Con Ricevuta Di Ritorno.
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toroddfuglesteg
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I agree with the borders towards the Anglo and Euro symphonic prog scene. RPI is most definate different from those scenes. What I am not able to grasp is the border between RPI and Jazz/Fusion/Eclectic. Let's take bands like Nodo Gordiano, Catafalchi del Cyber, Fonderia, Boris Savoldelli and Area. Where is the borderposts here ? |
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Finnforest
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Dry fusion is fusion whether from Rome or London. Only rarely will a fusion band fit into RPI, via also adding in significant dashes of Italian song tradition, bold Italian vocals, avant-garde classical touches, or all of the above and more....Area was a special case because they do add some of that along with their bold left-wing politics which made them a huge part of the Italian social/music scene of that time. They could be placed here in Fusion or Avant-Fusion if we had that category, they also can be part of RPI to make sure Italian prog fans find them for the reasons I listed. Too many people get offended when there are often more than one possible placement for a band, Area is a good example, but there are many. Both Jazz and RPI agreed to have Area in RPI, so we've placed them there. If we get multi-genre tagging they will be there also I would presume. With regard to the others it just depends how much a band sound feels derived from the aspects of the sub definition, in the opinion of the team members who have collectively heard a ton of RPI and read much on the subject. Some of these groups cross genre definitions and work in more than one place. The teams do the best they can to put bands in the most logical place. Hopefully we get it right more often than not, but it can be very difficult, as you know too well
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Nightfly
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I'm very tempted by that one Jim. Have you got it and if so what do you think?
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Finnforest
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Nope, won't be available for a month over here, but the online samples sounded promising
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tszirmay
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Jump on the bandwagon, signori, Hostsonaten's Summereve is still in the lead 2011 best albums
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Finnforest
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Hey buddy! You know I like the saucier stuff over the pretty stuff.....
anyway my pick so far is Gran Turismo Veloce, but I haven't heard much 2011 with everything that's been going down at home. |
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Todd
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Thomas, I just obtained Summereve and heard it for the first time today. I must say I've been a bit ambivalent about some of Hostsonaten's material in the past--like Jim, I tend to favor the crazier side of RPI. That being said, this is easily my favorite of theirs--really excellent stuff! But also like Jim, Gran Turismo Veloce is my favorite RPI album so far this year.
Here are a few other Italian prog tasty treats I've enjoyed this year:
Accordo dei Contrari
Catafalchi del Cyber
Euthymia
Le Orme (very similar in style to the comebacks by Delirium and Latte e Miele, Jimmy sounds really good!)
Pandora
Labirinto di Specchi
RedZen
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tszirmay
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Lizzy
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Hey guys! Thank you for the nice feedback!
... and to think that I've come here to whine about the new Jacula. I might do that later though. However, because this seems like such a happy place, I'll keep things that way and say WOW! Absenthia's debut (and only album so far) was unbelievable! I mean, Gaius Sallustius Crispus meets prog (among others) almost made me squeal. I must listen again and focus more on the lyrics this time. If you haven't heard it yet, DO IT! |
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Finnforest
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The new Jacula is very different from old Jacula. Essentially, it sounds like modern Antonius Rex cds, but even more smooth and somehow relaxing. I enjoyed it, but it is not like the old band. It's a new line-up and a new kind of Jacula to be sure. If you like "Switch on Dark" then give the new Jacula a try, if you're expecting the old stuff, you might be dissapointed.
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Lizzy
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Well that is the problem. I listened and I was bitterly disappointed. I would have imagined that the next step should be an album oozing heresy and occultism, a record that would make you feel as if you are going to be possessed in the next two seconds, with that amazing church organ and maybe some real EVP's. But it was the exact opposite. There were times when it almost felt like a new age recording. So I did eventually whine. |
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Finnforest
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I know exactly what you mean, it is like a new age meets Jacula.
But wow, that '72 Jacula album still just blows me away every time.
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