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JJLehto 
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 Posted: May 27 2011 at 16:26 |
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GOP are the Republicans Alex.
The "Grand Old Party" is a nick name that it often goes by.
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manofmystery
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 16:43 |
 JJLehto wrote:
nono, Palin would be worse 
Both parties are corporate puppets but at least one would keep intact our social rights (inb4 all the libertarians say we have none already).
And that really has nothing to do with it being outdated, just the field of candidates we have! The office can't help we're stuck with choosing the lesser of 2 evils or writing in a guaranteed loser, that's a bigger flaw with the system.
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Oh yeah?
Neither party gives a sh*t about economic or social rights. It's all about imposing their own morality.
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 16:44 |
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Did you stop reading at the very end of that statement?
I already knew your answer and said so inside the ( ) right next to it!
You are right though, neither party cares. I guess Obama takes the flak for being the leader, but not like it would've gone differently with McCain. Hell, it may have nothing to do with the Presidency!
The smoking bans have been growing for years, even without a word from the guvment it'll be nationwide soon. Even Six Flags and Penn State have smoking bans on their park/campus. Yes, outside you have to smoke in small designated areas. And you can't get anymore local than an amusement park.
Edited by JJLehto - May 27 2011 at 16:54
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Atavachron
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 16:52 |
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Bill Clinton should just run again and get it over with.
Palin no worse than Obama? What planet of infantile blockheads must one come from to believe that?
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 16:54 |
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haha! I don't like Clinton, really.
Well, kinda sorta.
Edited by JJLehto - May 27 2011 at 16:55
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 17:05 |
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Clinton was a good president, he really left a mark. A stain, to be more precise...
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timothy leary
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 17:06 |
Atavachron wrote:
Bill Clinton should just run again and get it over with.
Palin no worse than Obama? What planet of infantile blockheads must one come from to believe that?
oh did I hit a nerve, same planet any blockhead infant who voted for obama comes from, oh change what did michelle redecorate the mansion, anybody who votes for someone out of chicago politics is an idiot
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 17:09 |
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Wise words from our good friend Tim who seems to be anarchist, socialist, liberal, libertarian, hippie and anti hippie all in one!
Oh snap Alex! Over a decade later and the joke keeps a coming!
Clinton did leave a stain though, thanks to NAFTA!
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timothy leary
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 17:12 |
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I ain't your good friend
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 17:13 |
timothy leary wrote:
I ain't your good friend
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True story, I also forgot you are the king of semantics, contentiousness, and being unable to accept things at surface level. A jack of all trades you are my good buddy.
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timothy leary
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 17:19 |
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quite a list for someone who has never met me
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 17:21 |
timothy leary wrote:
quite a list for someone who has never met me
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Well, all coming from a statement from someone who's never met me amirite? Besides, prove me wrong. At least from your talks here on PA, I have seen you argue pretty much every counter point. Leading me to wonder if you actually have any beliefs or just have to be alternative, so you always just take a counter argument. Or are not quite sure of yourself and attempt to believe everything. Either way whatever
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The T
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 17:27 |
Atavachron wrote:
Bill Clinton should just run again and get it over with.Palin no worse than Obama? What planet of infantile blockheads must one come from to believe that?
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One where you have realized all career politicians are the same sh*t.
Though nobody could be worse than Palin. Well maybe The Situation.
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Atavachron
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 17:31 |
timothy leary wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
Bill Clinton should just run again and get it over with.
Palin no worse than Obama? What planet of infantile blockheads must one come from to believe that? |
oh did I hit a nerve, same planet any blockhead infant who voted for obama comes from, oh change what did michelle redecorate the mansion, anybody who votes for someone out of chicago politics is an idiot
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ooh, sassy !
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timothy leary
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 17:32 |
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I believe in my family and I am quite sure of myself, so let me see i am contentious because I respond to some obama fan boy who calls me an infantile blockhead and because I think Palin and Obama are both clowns, I have nothing to prove. I worked hard and am now retired and I putter around the yard and spend time with my family and happen to like good music. Maybe you can tell me what to believe, I'm all ears
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cannon
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 18:09 |
I'm somewhat surprised at the responses. As a Canadian who follows US politics quite extensively, I must say I'm kind of dumbfounded by members from the US with thier posts. I thought the office of the president of the US held more respect than what is represented here in this discussion. Have I been that knieve? Astonished.. yes. Ignorant...I guess so.
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manofmystery
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 18:11 |
Everyone seems to have missed the fact that Bill Clinton can't run again.
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Time always wins.
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Atavachron
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 18:18 |
cannon wrote:
I'm somewhat surprised at the responses. As a Canadian who follows US politics quite extensively, I must say I'm kind of dumbfounded by members from the US with thier posts. I thought the office of the president of the US held more respect than what is represented here in this discussion. Have I been that knieve? Astonished.. yes. Ignorant...I guess so.
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you know how it is when you actually live with it, it's easy to
complain, and I think we tend to judge the person more than the office
itself. The Presidency? It's pretty good if you ask me,
enough power in the right areas and little power in the wrong ones.
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Atavachron
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 18:21 |
manofmystery wrote:
Everyone seems to have missed the fact that Bill Clinton can't run again. |
you're right
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manofmystery
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 18:24 |
cannon wrote:
I'm somewhat surprised at the responses. As a Canadian who follows US politics quite extensively, I must say I'm kind of dumbfounded by members from the US with thier posts. I thought the office of the president of the US held more respect than what is represented here in this discussion. Have I been that knieve? Astonished.. yes. Ignorant...I guess so.
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I don't believe I showed any disrespect to the office itself in my posts. The individuals who occupy the office are fair game. Especially if the president himself is acting outside his authority and/or is disrespecting the office.
Edited by manofmystery - May 27 2011 at 18:25
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Time always wins.
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