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Posted: May 28 2011 at 00:35

actually the word is that though Romney may be the current best Repub nominee (which he isn't, they should get Boener to run, and not just cause it's fun to mispronounce "Boener"), but Romney is not popular at all with the GOP as a candidate

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Posted: May 27 2011 at 22:59

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Palin hasn't declared she is running (she's to smart to run) and the republican party is pretty split with her.

Well I don't know about smart, lol, but she's not going to run because she knows she can't win and being a non-Presidential candidate makes her too much money.

You obviously haven't been watching the polls very much, Mitt Romney is the Republican's favorite and what's wrong with him? (No offensive Morman comments)

He is transparently a man with no principles who will do anything to gain and retain power. And the Massachusetts health care reform he passed will almost certainly sink him with the Republican base, who are most important in the primary. And actually, Giuliani jumped ahead in the most recent CNN poll, although he also cannot win even the primary because he is a repulsive human being. I don't know why he's even talking about running, he spent almost $60 million in 2008 and only got one delegate in 2008. Gingrich is also too flamboyantly terrible of a person to make any headway in the primaries, he's only talking about running for the attention.

I'm not associated with any party really but this thread is really a joke.

The fact that so many people have paid attention to Donald Trump and Sarah Palin for so long is the joke. He was leading the polls at one point.

Edited by Henry Plainview - May 27 2011 at 23:11

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Posted: May 27 2011 at 22:36

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First it was Donald Trump. Now it's Sarah Palin. These two IMO have no intention of actually running in the GOP presidential campaign. It's all about attention and money. As a Canadian looking from the outside in, this a mockery and a disgrace on what is the Office of the President of the United States.

Do you believe either of these two will actually throw thier name in the race? IMO, Palin and Trump are clowns. It's really hard to believe it's come down to this. What a joke. I say this with disbelief, sadness and anger. How can anyone take these two serious? Does this eradicate or lessen the seriousness of what is the position of the President of the U.S.? I'm not sure what my answer is. What do you think?

Well lets look at this OP. Donald Trump isn't running and most conservatives thought he was a joke anyway and Palin hasn't declared she is running (she's to smart to run) and the republican party is pretty split with her. You obviously haven't been watching the polls very much, Mitt Romney is the Republican's favorite and what's wrong with him? (No offensive Morman comments)

I'm not associated with any party really but this thread is really a joke.

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Posted: May 27 2011 at 22:15

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I'm somewhat surprised at the responses. As a Canadian who follows US politics quite extensively, I must say I'm kind of dumbfounded by members from the US with thier posts. I thought the office of the president of the US held more respect than what is represented here in this discussion. Have I been that knieve? Astonished.. yes. Ignorant...I guess so.

I don't believe I showed any disrespect to the office itself in my posts. The individuals who occupy the office are fair game. Especially if the president himself is acting outside his authority and/or is disrespecting the office.

I didn't intend for my post above to state that you or anybody has shown disrespect for the office of the president of the US. Maybe respect in the context of observance, reverence, esteem for the office itself, not the person occupying the seat in the office.

I agree the individual should be held in scrutiny. Right or wrong. Unfairly or fairly. That comes with the job.

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Posted: May 27 2011 at 20:09

JJLehto wrote:

GOP are the Republicans Alex.
The "Grand Old Party" is a nick name that it often goes by.

Or, as they seem to want to be called, God's Official Party.

"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken

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Posted: May 27 2011 at 19:49

Henry Plainview wrote:

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I think a lot of people would prefer a "war on fun" over a "war on homosexuals, women, and the poor".

Who wages those wars? As far as I know, politicians wage a "war on regular people", that's all. Which includes all of that and more...

I was being a tad melodramatic because of the tone of the article mom posted. ;-) And yes, but there are certain targets that groups prefer over others.

Yes, usually the weakest ones Unhappy

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Posted: May 27 2011 at 19:45

The T wrote:

Henry Plainview wrote:

I think a lot of people would prefer a "war on fun" over a "war on homosexuals, women, and the poor".

Who wages those wars? As far as I know, politicians wage a "war on regular people", that's all. Which includes all of that and more...

I was being a tad melodramatic because of the tone of the article mom posted. ;-) And yes, but there are certain targets that groups prefer over others.

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Posted: May 27 2011 at 19:38

Henry Plainview wrote:

I think a lot of people would prefer a "war on fun" over a "war on homosexuals, women, and the poor".

Who wages those wars? As far as I know, politicians wage a "war on regular people", that's all. Which includes all of that and more...

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Posted: May 27 2011 at 19:26

Cannon, you must have missed something in your US news if you think we respect politicians...

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nono, Palin would be worse LOL

Both parties are corporate puppets but at least one would keep intact our social rights (inb4 all the libertarians say we have none already).
And that really has nothing to do with it being outdated, just the field of candidates we have! The office can't help we're stuck with choosing the lesser of 2 evils or writing in a guaranteed loser, that's a bigger flaw with the system.

Oh yeah?

http://reason.com/archives/2011/05/17/obamas-war-on-fun

Neither party gives a sh*t about economic or social rights. It's all about imposing their own morality.

I think a lot of people would prefer a "war on fun" over a "war on homosexuals, women, and the poor".

Edited by Henry Plainview - May 27 2011 at 19:27

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Posted: May 27 2011 at 18:54

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And why is the office of the president of the US so sacrosanct that we have to apologize for disrespecting it?

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Posted: May 27 2011 at 18:24

Edited by manofmystery - May 27 2011 at 18:25

Time always wins.

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Posted: May 27 2011 at 18:21

manofmystery wrote:

Everyone seems to have missed the fact that Bill Clinton can't run again.

you're right

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Posted: May 27 2011 at 18:18

you know how it is when you actually live with it, it's easy to complain, and I think we tend to judge the person more than the office itself. The Presidency? It's pretty good if you ask me, enough power in the right areas and little power in the wrong ones.

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Posted: May 27 2011 at 18:11

Everyone seems to have missed the fact that Bill Clinton can't run again.

Time always wins.

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Posted: May 27 2011 at 18:09

I'm somewhat surprised at the responses. As a Canadian who follows US politics quite extensively, I must say I'm kind of dumbfounded by members from the US with thier posts. I thought the office of the president of the US held more respect than what is represented here in this discussion. Have I been that knieve? Astonished.. yes. Ignorant...I guess so.

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Posted: May 27 2011 at 17:32

I believe in my family and I am quite sure of myself, so let me see i am contentious because I respond to some obama fan boy who calls me an infantile blockhead and because I think Palin and Obama are both clowns, I have nothing to prove. I worked hard and am now retired and I putter around the yard and spend time with my family and happen to like good music. Maybe you can tell me what to believe, I'm all ears

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Posted: May 27 2011 at 17:31

timothy leary wrote:

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Bill Clinton should just run again and get it over with.

Palin no worse than Obama? What planet of infantile blockheads must one come from to believe that?

oh did I hit a nerve, same planet any blockhead infant who voted for obama comes from, oh change what did michelle redecorate the mansion, anybody who votes for someone out of chicago politics is an idiot

ooh, sassy !

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Posted: May 27 2011 at 17:27

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Bill Clinton should just run again and get it over with.Palin no worse than Obama? What planet of infantile blockheads must one come from to believe that?

One where you have realized all career politicians are the same sh*t.

Though nobody could be worse than Palin. Well maybe The Situation.

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Posted: May 27 2011 at 17:21

timothy leary wrote:

quite a list for someone who has never met me

Well, all coming from a statement from someone who's never met me amirite?

Besides, prove me wrong. At least from your talks here on PA, I have seen you argue pretty much every counter point. Leading me to wonder if you actually have any beliefs or just have to be alternative, so you always just take a counter argument.
Or are not quite sure of yourself and attempt to believe everything.

Either way
whatever

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Posted: May 27 2011 at 17:19

quite a list for someone who has never met me