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cannon 
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 13:45 |
First it was Donald Trump. Now it's Sarah Palin. These two IMO have no intention of actually running in the GOP presidential campaign. It's all about attention and money. As a Canadian looking from the outside in, this a mockery and a disgrace on what is the Office of the President of the United States.
Do you believe either of these two will actually throw thier name in the race? IMO, Palin and Trump are clowns. It's really hard to believe it's come down to this. What a joke. I say this with disbelief, sadness and anger. How can anyone take these two serious? Does this eradicate or lessen the seriousness of what is the position of the President of the U.S.? I'm not sure what my answer is. What do you think?
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 13:47 |
Trump, no. Palin, probably. Maybe it's because you're an outsider but I can't say I'm surprised in the least. Clowns? Take them seriously? A disgrace of the office? Yeah, pretty much. Old news. Semi related note: I am finally switching from Democrat to Independent 
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 13:56 |
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Her views represent what I hope is just the radical fringe of our society. I honestly don't believe that she believes that she has any hopes of actually winning, but I think that the hopes are that her views will at least cause the final GOP representative to move from the center to the right on some of these radical policies. But who knows, the people who have her ear may actually have her convinced that she can win.
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 13:57 |
 cannon wrote:
First it was Donald Trump. Now it's Sarah Palin. These two IMO have no intention of actually running in the GOP presidential campaign. It's all about attention and money. As a Canadian looking from the outside in, this a mockery and a disgrace on what is the Office of the President of the United States.
Do you believe either of these two will actually throw thier name in the race? IMO, Palin and Trump are clowns. It's really hard to believe it's come down to this. What a joke. I say this with disbelief, sadness and anger. How can anyone take these two serious? Does this eradicate or lessen the seriousness of what is the position of the President of the U.S.? I'm not sure what my answer is. What do you think? |
For sure. They are after attention and money. But if you think of it, most politicians are after the latter. And to get it, they need the former. These "celebrity" politicians ar only a little more evident in their ways and intentions.
By the way I think anyone can try to be president of the US, there's no need for a "career" politician (which means one with all the dirt of politics already well-learned).
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 13:57 |
JJLehto wrote:
Semi related note: I am finally switching from Democrat to Independent
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cannon
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 14:28 |
It seems the US political media has been duped by these two. The NY Times seems to think that Sarah Palin will be jumping in the race.
Sarah Palin is dumb as a fox. I think she's knows she has no chance of winning in either race. She's taking advantage of the situation to get more attention thus making her more money. Why do you think she left her mandate in Alaska as governor half way through? Money.
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manofmystery
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 14:52 |
Trump and Palin are no bigger jokes than Romney, our current president, or any of our recent past presidents. They are all authoritarians. There is only one established candidate out there that gives a damn about abiding by the limited Constitutional authority granted to the President and the powers that be within the republican party will never let his candidacy happen. It's sad to say but too many people desire to regulate how everyone else lives for Ron Paul to ever win. I've been saying this for awhile: Mit Romney (always look for the weak, spineless candidate: republicans think they need them to appeal to "moderates") will win the republican primary ensuring a second term for Obama.
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 15:03 |
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Who is really worse then Mom? Romney or Obama? One being GOP and the other democrat doesn't make the choice for me. Both are bad, horrendous. I think Romney would be even worse. That he might be a little more pro-market doesn't make him more pro-liberty (in fact in personal liberties he might be worse). Who then?
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stonebeard
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 15:20 |
The GOP.... 
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 15:23 |
stonebeard wrote:
The GOP....
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That's the simplest way to put it! Only good thing is, as of right now...polls show Obama V. Palin would deff be a loss for the GOP, and I think he was generally ahead of most. Not that it means much but I am just glad people aren't so pissed at Bama they are willing to turn to the classic GOP!  If the Reps want to win, Ron Paul would be the best choice. He's polling even with Bama and given the anti government sensation...well Paul pretty much made it what it is now. Edit: Though as Anton said, all Republicans are cool with the less taxes and regulation but gay marriage? Drugs? And the military. I hope the Paul's push for drastic defense budget cuts, then see how happy the party is with him.
Edited by JJLehto - May 27 2011 at 15:29
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 15:27 |
cannon wrote:
It seems the US political media has been duped by these two. The NY Times seems to think that Sarah Palin will be jumping in the race.
Sarah Palin is dumb as a fox. I think she's knows she has no chance of winning in either race. She's taking advantage of the situation to get more attention thus making her more money. Why do you think she left her mandate in Alaska as governor half way through? Money. |
Well to be fair...she abandoned her state because she was facing a few charges and she gave a passionate speech about how she "didn't want to put the good people of Alaska through that nightmare" and "waste their time and money with it" Very nice eh? And of course technically...whatever she was accused of now goes out the window! Kinda like Jame McGreevy years ago, governor of NJ. He was facing some scandals and then comes out saying he was gay and resigning. This was NJ not Texas...no reason to resign! But whatever trouble he may have gotten in is just speculation now.
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timothy leary
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 15:38 |
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Palin would be no worse than Obama, they are all corporate puppets. I personally think the office of president has become outdated, when it becomes, as it has, a choice between the lesser of two evils, then what is the point.
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 15:44 |
nono, Palin would be worse  Both parties are corporate puppets but at least one would keep intact our social rights (inb4 all the libertarians say we have none already). And that really has nothing to do with it being outdated, just the field of candidates we have! The office can't help we're stuck with choosing the lesser of 2 evils or writing in a guaranteed loser, that's a bigger flaw with the system.
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timothy leary
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 15:49 |
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We don't need no stinking president
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rushfan4
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 15:50 |
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With today's media and internet accessibility the best possible candidates for president will probably never run because of all of the scrutiny and lack of privacy, etc... You basically have to be a media whore and megalomaniac to even consider running for president these days.
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rushfan4
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 15:50 |
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...and be extremely rich.
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 15:51 |
timothy leary wrote:
We don't need no stinking president
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Well the way things are heading we might as well eliminate the government and just have mega businesses run the country, cut the middle man! Oh yeah Scott, I never knew why anyone would..there must be some want to do good and help the country. Why go through the inhuman amount of sh*t they go through? You cheated on a math test in 5th grade!?!? And all the misinformation that millions will blindly believe because they want to. That would drive me the craziest. If someone wants to just rip off the people and lone their pockets why bother with all that? Just stay a representative and line the bills with pork, or become a lobbyist or something!
Edited by JJLehto - May 27 2011 at 15:54
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timothy leary
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 15:52 |
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and a clown
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 16:00 |
What's GOP?
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"Lobby", "donations", etc...
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rushfan4
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 16:12 |
harmonium.ro wrote:
What's GOP?
rushfan4 wrote:
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"Lobby", "donations", etc...
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The majority of US candidates come from the upper class. There are exceptions, but not many.
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