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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: May 20 2011 at 12:35 | ||
Everybody kows the world has two types of music - my kind and every one else's. And even my kind isn't always so great - David Byrne
There. That pretty much sums it up. |
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cstack3
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Posted: May 20 2011 at 15:46 | ||
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JeanFrame
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Posted: May 23 2011 at 07:45 | ||
I don't mean the mainstream remains static; it tends to be dragged along by general progress, though digging in its heels. |
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TODDLER
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Posted: May 24 2011 at 11:28 | ||
This is one reason why...lol
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: May 24 2011 at 13:43 | ||
I am so glad that my friends don't refer to me as a progrock fan. They just say he's into all this wild sh*t. f**k prog. I love music that dares to go wherever. I actually hate this prog label. Really I do. I love music.
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RoyFairbank
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Posted: May 24 2011 at 15:51 | ||
The reason people hate prog is because its too confined in its own specificities. You have to be familiar and like the whole rock thing to like it. Prog is very deliberate. Someone mentioned about rap and the simple following of the rhythm at the end of each line.... That's a construct prog fans aren't so comfortable with, and likewise for rap fans vis a vis prog.
Pop really borrows from everything, its goal is to follow the trends and meet the expectations of the music business. I don't feel its an independent genre. Rap also borrows from pop, but its got some clear identifiers. 4/4 time is used by everybody, and some historical pop is very good, in fact at one time Rock was the pop of the era (1960s). |
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Prog_Traveller
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Posted: May 24 2011 at 17:08 | ||
Because they are morons? ;)
I just got back from Rosfest and there were maybe 600 people there. 600 people out of six billion(actually well over 6 billion). How many prog albums sell over 6,000 copies these days? Not many. |
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Alitare
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 08 2008 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 3595 |
Posted: May 24 2011 at 18:48 | ||
Maybe if they weren't so stuck up on being unmemorable, melodically uninventive, needlessly complicated, and rehashed, maybe they'd sell better. ;)
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Slaughternalia
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Posted: May 24 2011 at 23:25 | ||
That must be the problem. I mean the charts these days are overflowing with innovation!
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Alitare
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Posted: May 25 2011 at 00:01 | ||
Who's talkin' charts, pal? I mean, Slayer never got much on the charts, but they still sold 'well'. Don't misconstrue my wording to say I prefer Lady Gaga to Jethro Tull, that's silly-willy, but I do prefer Lady GaGa to the nth generation of Dream theater's clones' clones' clones, ya dig? Woohoo! Ya played a G note for half an hour in 7/4! Now write somet'in' catchy, ya talentless hack! (I would say to the rippers off of the rippers off of the rippers off, the guys who liked Rush, but were so stoned while listening to Hemispheres that they couldn't even get their thievery on spot when playing what have you).
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Billy Pilgrim
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Posted: May 25 2011 at 06:45 | ||
I'll drop my two cents on this. Honestly I've been listening to allot of different music lately, even popular music that gets played on the radio, it's bad but it's catchy and easy to listen to. I think that music sometimes can reflect peoples personalities and music can be very powerful weather we give it the credit or not. It definitely affects our thoughts, and when people are listening to "F@@k you I'll shank you" music, yeah that's kind of a problem. Why prog is seen as some sort of music savior I do not know, maybe because it makes it's listeners feel superior to a certain extent. Basically, it's music, enjoy it, who cares if no one else does.
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Vibrationbaby
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
Posted: May 25 2011 at 10:50 | ||
i would even put the f**king Beatles above this rot.
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Vibrationbaby
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
Posted: May 25 2011 at 10:54 | ||
A national embarassment. Makes me sick to know that she is even within miles of me.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: May 26 2011 at 10:51 | ||
Do I look lke a goof ? Well maybe sometimes. A lot of people say, they let this guy near an aeroplane? Actually one of my navs felt very safe with me. If you want a hero photo I'll try and get one. How do you like the Rick Wakeman Chair?. Edited by Vibrationbaby - May 26 2011 at 10:53 |
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Tapfret
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 13:14 | ||
Why don't most people love our beloved music?Because we don't even like most of it ourselves! |
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 14:03 | ||
i f**king hate prog. I am a sucker for punishment. A sado- masochist. The worst progrock band has to be Gentle Giant. Octopus has to be worse than Céline's At least Derek did the right thing and discovered Jon Bon Jovi. I hate prog that's why I listen to the goddamnn crap every day.
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twosteves
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Posted: May 27 2011 at 15:04 | ||
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Vibrationbaby
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
Posted: May 27 2011 at 15:10 | ||
I just figured out why we hate our music. It's because we are not people.
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Turillazzo
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 31 2011 Location: Turin Status: Offline Points: 144 |
Posted: May 31 2011 at 13:44 | ||
I don't like saying that other people are just stupid, but I think that often they don't want to pay enough attention to what they hear. That's simply lazyness.
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7headedchicken
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Posted: May 31 2011 at 15:12 | ||
I think there are many reasons, and it's different for everyone. Some people would probably love prog if they were exposed to it, some people may have heard it and just need to hear it a little bit more, some people are closed-minded, and in some rare cases, some may even be physically allergic to it.
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