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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2011 at 12:42
I always found that story so crazy TODDLER,  but I checked the internet (where you can find all and any info) and found a book that mentions Satanism in Vineland back in 1971, as well as a personal account from someone saying there were satanic cults through the 70's and 80's.

What was up with your Southern NJ town? Shocked
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2011 at 13:45
So what do we make of people like this Fitzpatrick who put eveything he had on something like this (and obvioulsy lost)? Is he a person with deep personality issues that lead him to do it and believe it all? Is he an extremely gullible person? I certainly hope he is rather a complete idiot because if he's actually an intelligent person who believed in all this sh*t, I'm scared.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2011 at 13:51
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

So what do we make of people like this Fitzpatrick who put eveything he had on something like this (and obvioulsy lost)? Is he a person with deep personality issues that lead him to do it and believe it all? Is he an extremely gullible person? I certainly hope he is rather a complete idiot because if he's actually an intelligent person who believed in all this sh*t, I'm scared.

The word nutter comes to mindLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2011 at 14:35
Well T, Fitzpatrick wrote a book  called The Doomsday Code, unless he sold several million copies, I don't believe many will buy it anymore.

Already Amazon has lowered the price.

http://www.amazon.com/Doomsday-Code-Robert-Fitzpatrick/dp/1609571215

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2011 at 14:54
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Well T, Fitzpatrick wrote a book  called The Doomsday Code, unless he sold several million copies, I don't believe many will buy it anymore.

Already Amazon has lowered the price.

http://www.amazon.com/Doomsday-Code-Robert-Fitzpatrick/dp/1609571215

Iván 
http://pdf-database.org/The-Doomsday-Code:-God-Is-Warning-Us-Through-The-Bible - you can read it fro free online.
 
I read the first 40 pages - nothing spectacular, a few unintentional laughs (god uses irony) but not enough to keep reading.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2011 at 15:03
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Oh and in March 13 2034, one day after, Pat Shields is finally an Admin in PA. And Henry Plainview finally tells us his name, shows us his face, and smiles. And Robert has finally given up on beer only to get stuck on lefty wine...


Erm, Henry's real name is Nick.  He's made a video of himself, so we all know what he looks like.  I don't think he smiled though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2011 at 15:44
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2011 at 18:52
Originally posted by James James wrote:


Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Oh and in March 13 2034, one day after, Pat Shields is finally an Admin in PA. And Henry Plainview finally tells us his name, shows us his face, and smiles. And Robert has finally given up on beer only to get stuck on lefty wine...
Erm, Henry's real name is Nick.  He's made a video of himself, so we all know what he looks like.  I don't think he smiled though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2011 at 19:23
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:


Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Oh and in March 13 2034, one day after, Pat Shields is finally an Admin in PA. And Henry Plainview finally tells us his name, shows us his face, and smiles. And Robert has finally given up on beer only to get stuck on lefty wine...
Erm, Henry's real name is Nick.  He's made a video of himself, so we all know what he looks like.  I don't think he smiled though.

I thought everyone had seen my masterpiece of avant-garde music by now.

(Don't blame me for the black and white, it was Steve's idea)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2011 at 09:42
When have you revealed your real name?!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2011 at 09:57
Probably old, but new to me. Look at the infallible math that predicted the rapture.

I'd only wish I'd seen it first. It could have made a nice thesis.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2011 at 10:05
Are we sure Harold Camping was behind this?  familyradio.com doesn't seem to even mention the May 21 date.  Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2011 at 10:06
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

When have you revealed your real name?!


He didn't.  Ghandi2's (an old account of his) account mentions his name.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2011 at 10:08
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Are we sure Harold Camping was behind this?  familyradio.com doesn't seem to even mention the May 21 date.  Wink


Or the 1994 date. How strange.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2011 at 13:10
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Probably old, but new to me. Look at the infallible math that predicted the rapture.

I'd only wish I'd seen it first. It could have made a nice thesis.

I made it, even proved his timeline was crap (following the Bible literally despite we believe the Book of Genesis is only an allegory), also proved that he had added at least 200 extra years to his timeline counting some patriarch ages twice (Despite I know earth most likely has 4.5 billion years).
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I took this information with Biblical quotes and even research from the Twelve Patriarchs Apocryphal Testaments found with  the Dead Sea Scrolls  to their page, their response was clear...Insults and a couple days later  they banned me from all their sites then Micky helped me with support and he was also banned.


No thesis you could make would convince them, a friend also gave some evidence and all the response she had "How can you talk about Harold Camping if  you are not worth to to untie his shoes"

It is a cult, and probably if he sets a a new date, they will believe him and give more money

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2011 at 13:13
I read somewhere that the response to this sort of cognitive dissonance among followers is typically that 1/3 become disillusioned and quit; 1/3 become more faithful and stronger in their dedication, and the remainder is sort of in between or it is unknown how they will really react.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2011 at 13:16
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Probably old, but new to me. Look at the infallible math that predicted the rapture.

I'd only wish I'd seen it first. It could have made a nice thesis.

I made it, even proved his timeline was crap (following the Bible literally despite we believe the Book of Genesis is only an allegory), also proved that he had added at least 200 extra years to his timeline counting some patriarch ages twice (Despite I know earth most likely has 4.5 billion years).
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I took this information with Biblical quotes and even research from the Twelve Patriarchs Apocryphal Testaments found with  the Dead Sea Scrolls  to their page, their response was clear...Insults and a couple days later  they banned me from all their sites then Micky helped me with support and he was also banned.


No thesis you could make would convince them, a friend also gave some evidence and all the response she had "How can you talk about Harold Camping if  you are not worth to to untie his shoes"

It is a cult, and probably if he sets a a new date, they will believe him and give more money

Iván.


I was just joking about the thesis. The paper necessary to refute his claims would be of a third grade level.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2011 at 13:22
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Are we sure Harold Camping was behind this?  familyradio.com doesn't seem to even mention the May 21 date.  Wink


Or the 1994 date. How strange.


LOL, that was another problem, we are talking about 10 dates:

Originally posted by  <a href=http://testallthings.com/2009/07/31/did-harold-camping-ever-teach-that-the-end-was-coming-in-1994/ target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://testallthings.com/2009/07/31/did-harold-camping-ever-teach-that-the-end-was-coming-in-1994/</a>  http://testallthings.com/2009/07/31/did-harold-camping-ever-teach-that-the-end-was-coming-in-1994/ wrote:


Below is an email from Matt Tuter, who works for the FR ministry, who read Thomas Golda’s lost of Camping date failures.

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I don’t know your name, but I was forwarded a copy of your post with the various dates that Harold Camping has set.

I wanted to offer a correction. The December 25th date “8″ was for 1994. I still have the video tape when he said it, 40 minutes into the Open Forum on December 20th 1994.

On “10″ it was April 29th 1996 Harold set the date as May 3rd. again I still have the tape.

In addition to Revelation 22:18 I like to present Galatians 1:8&9 to those that believe in progressive revelation.

Matt Tuter

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The list is updated as follows:

Mr. Camping has made 10 false date predictions in the past.

Date setters have all one thing in common. A 100% failure rate”

1. 1978 – Camping declares to his Alameda Church that the rapture would occur in 1978

2. September 6, 1994 – Camping prediction # 2 – Based on 1994?

3. September 15, 1994 – Camping prediction # 3 – Based on 1994?

4. September 29, 1994 – Camping prediction # 4 – Based on 1994?

5. October 2, 1994 – Camping prediction #5 – Claimed Christ was born Oct 2, in 7AD and would return exactly 2000 years later.

6. December 25, 1994 – Camping prediction # 6 – Camping claims that Christ will return on Christmas and that the Bible supported this.

7. March 16, 1995 (Purim) – Camping prediction # 7 – Camping claims this is “Watch # 1″ of a new wave of dates.

8. September 24, 1995 – Camping prediction # 8 – Camping claims this is “Watch # 2″ – Camping claims that there is Biblical evidence of Christ returning “383 days” after September 6, 1994. Camping also claims that September 24, 1995 is 721 + 91 Ceros(A ceros is little over 18 years – 223 lunar cycles or revolutions. A ceros is the complete revoluation of the sun, moon, stars and planets) – Camping claims that these revolutions can predict the end. Camping also states that if you divide the 2300 days of Daniel 8 by the number “6″ you get 383. Thus, according to Camping, you can add 383 days to September 6, 1994 and come to September 24, 1995. September 24, 1995 ends the magic 383 day period.

9. April 3, 1996 – Passover (Watch # 3)- Camping prediction # 9 – Camping claims that there is Biblical evidence of Christ returning 191 days after September 25, 1995 on the Passover.

10. May 3, 1996 – Camping prediction # 10 – Camping claims that there is a 30 day grace period after April 3, 1996 which Christ can return.




You will see the name of Matt Tuter, who works or worked for Family radio but doesn't believe this.

Camping apparently gave 10 dates, and I found a video for April 1996



They can't deny this.....But still they said Camping never predicted a date before 2011...They said that 1994? has an interrogation mark and for that reason doesn't count.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2011 at 15:54
And it amazes me that people who claim to believe in the Bible ignore a pretty basic claim about would-be "prophets."

Deuteronomy 18:22:

If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.


In other words, there is no margin of error.  Camping made one failed prophecy.  People should have disregarded his predictions thereafter.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2011 at 18:32
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:


Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Oh and in March 13 2034, one day after, Pat Shields is finally an Admin in PA. And Henry Plainview finally tells us his name, shows us his face, and smiles. And Robert has finally given up on beer only to get stuck on lefty wine...
Erm, Henry's real name is Nick.  He's made a video of himself, so we all know what he looks like.  I don't think he smiled though.

I thought everyone had seen my masterpiece of avant-garde music by now.

(Don't blame me for the black and white, it was Steve's idea)

Shocked

Observations: 

1. He actually looks like I thought. A few more years and a few more hairs and he might actually somewhat resemble the real Henry Plainview.... 
2. That song is actually a masterpiece of avant-garde music. 
3. The black/white factor is extremely cheap, but it matches the proceedings. I like the touch of the family portraits in the background. 
4. He didn't smile.  
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