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Posted: May 03 2011 at 08:12
I think Eyes Wide Shut can qualify too!
Dream logic is used throughout...
Very puzzling in places and what the heck was that ritual in red and black with all the women all about?
I read that it was a reenactment of illuminati rituals or freemasonry but that is too freaky to consider.
The other thing is Kidman's character Alice apparently was there at the ritual therefore would have seen Bill (Cruise) and know what he was up to. The characters at the ritual are revealed too in the photos on Ziegler's wall! It is all there in front of our eyes but they are too 'wide shut' to see the symbols and imagery.
Kubrick puts things right in our faces but then masks them with dialogue and master camera work. As we marvel at all this visual trickery the images pass by unnoticed. Subliminally in some ways. The mirrors are used throughout the film. even mirror images of entire scenes - the party at the beginning is mirrored in the red and black ritual scene.
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Posted: May 04 2011 at 07:32
TheGazzardian wrote:
In Memento, the black and white scenes happen before all the colour scenes ... if you think of the end of the movie as a pivot, all the black and white scenes move forward in time towards it, while all the colour scenes move backwards in time towards it.
A buddy of mine edited the film so that it played in chronological order and said it was actually pretty boring that way. A pretty interesting comment on how the way a story is told is at least as boring as the story.
SPOILERS!!! The big question in Memento to me has always been: Did Leonard kill his wife, or was Sammy Jenkins real? There were three directors commentary, one where the director said Teddy was lying (Sammy Jenkins was real), one where the director said he was telling the truth (Leonard did kill his wife), and one where he didn't bring it up at all. How's that for a mystery?
The special edition dvd has that edited version as a special feature, and yes, it is very boring that way. My interpretation is that Teddy was telling the truth. What motive would he have to lie? But Sammy Jenkins was real, he was just a con man who pretended to have the memory thing for insurance purposes.
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Posted: May 15 2011 at 09:09
yanch wrote:
Other-Naked Lunch. I still don't have the foggiest idea what this movie is about!
I saw that one at Lefont TARA in Atlanta. Also saw Caligula there. And Talking Heads Stop Making Sense. I can now see those at home on DVD. Much better as the floors aren't sticky and the concessions don't cost as much.
Edited by Slartibartfast - May 15 2011 at 09:13
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted: May 19 2011 at 02:43
If it helps those who have problems with 'Memento', try this version... Bollywood has a long history of remaking western movies & this film was no exception:
'Ghagini' (just like Memento, but in Hindi for the Indian market, so just as understandable, then )
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Incidentally, I voted for Eraserhead - not for the film itself, but just puzzled why they bothered making it at all; sorry chaps, complete garbage!
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Posted: May 19 2011 at 17:56
Eraserhead was one of Stanley Kubrick's favourite films. I don't find it particularly puzzling. It's a lot more direct than most of the later Lynch movies.
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Posted: May 19 2011 at 18:58
I found Moon quite puzzling... not the plotline or anything, but more the fact of the meaning behind it... Great film by the way, how it can be interpretted in so ways with only one character.
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Posted: May 19 2011 at 19:06
I don't like films that try to be clever and puzzling, they are more pretentious than puzzling (Primer for example)
"Other" - Inland Empire would be my vote, I guess. But it's really not a puzzle to solve, it's more artistic, without any clear solution. But puzzling it was. And very great.
"The Night Listener" was really strange and puzzling because of the irrational , strange story, I just thought the movie was wierd, which was kind of fun, because it wasn't good at all, but still interesting and sort of fun to follow.
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Posted: May 19 2011 at 21:41
The Pessimist wrote:
I found Moon quite puzzling... not the plotline or anything, but more the fact of the meaning behind it... Great film by the way, how it can be interpretted in so ways with only one character.
The twist for Moon was really goofy, it's probably not worth thinking about. The beginning of it was great, though.
harmonium.ro wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
Jim Garten wrote:
Incidentally, I voted for Eraserhead - not for the film itself, but just puzzled why they bothered making it at all; sorry chaps, complete garbage!
+++hides from Eraserhead fans+++
Don't worry, stonie and I got your back on Eraserhead's being possibly the worst movie of all time.
Aren't you the one who keeps talking about how there's no inherent good-ness or bad-ness in works of art?
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