Peter Bardens

I haven't heard them, though I do love Peter's playing on Camel.

The Quiet One wrote: I haven't heard them, though I do love Peter's playing on Camel.   Various players who have played in a Prog band doesn't mean they're really keen on that genre, or actually interested in playing more of it than with their main band.   Just look at Jan Hammer's discography, George Duke's, Wakeman's, Wright's, just simply mentioning keyboardists, the majority of these discography have anything to do with what they're actually known for. (yes I know Wakeman did Prog recordings, but most of his aren't really in that vein, and he was actually way more ambitious than say Yes' works)     but for rick , broken china and zee are realy prog to me, ant the first one wet dream realy floydian, and hammer did great things ,for instance the one with JERRY GOODMAN, like children,  peter's albums are average

Edited by jean-marie - April 06 2011 at 04:03

jean-marie wrote: giselle wrote: Peter was a good journeyman, a handy man to have in your band, albeit a bit precious at times. He talked a better game than he played or composed, which is sometimes a good quality to have for your own PR. Overachieved as it is.        or maybe he needed some direction? all cocomposed tracks with Andy are great and his own writting could be oudstanding, see spirit of the water from MOONMADNESS

Listening to Spirit of the Water, I agree. Fine song, haunting piano and melody, more of that would have been great to hear. Puzzling why it didn't happen. Perhaps you're right about direction? Or opportunity? Is that the only example? Was that a peak or a one-off? I don't think it could be a fluke, for there is maturity in the melody. Perhaps it came from his playing experience rather than a writing head? Intriguing.

I only know "The answer". Nice but anecdotic. What's its best, according to you?

jean-marie wrote: giselle wrote: jean-marie wrote: giselle wrote: Peter was a good journeyman, a handy man to have in your band, albeit a bit precious at times. He talked a better game than he played or composed, which is sometimes a good quality to have for your own PR. Overachieved as it is.        or maybe he needed some direction? all cocomposed tracks with Andy are great and his own writting could be oudstanding, see spirit of the water from MOONMADNESS Listening to Spirit of the Water, I agree. Fine song, haunting piano and melody, more of that would have been great to hear. Puzzling why it didn't happen. Perhaps you're right about direction? Or opportunity? Is that the only example? Was that a peak or a one-off? I don't think it could be a fluke, for there is maturity in the melody. Perhaps it came from his playing experience rather than a writing head? Intriguing.   his playing experience, you're probably right, he did so much different stuff before, he even played with Morisson THEM

  And he played on Van's Wavelength album. Bardens influenced so many, even Fleetwood Mac. Just listend to Van Morrison's ' Dweller On The Threshold" and you will instantly pick up PB's sound.

Edited by Chris S - April 06 2011 at 13:04

jean-marie wrote: As a Camel fan , i recently got most of Peter albums and i'm still wondering why he never managed to succeed a real great album of his own, think it's because he was not realy keen on prog and his albums were mixed bags, what's your opinion about that? ( despite everything i like SEEN ONE EARTH )

verslibre wrote: jean-marie wrote: As a Camel fan , i recently got most of Peter albums and i'm still wondering why he never managed to succeed a real great album of his own, think it's because he was not realy keen on prog and his albums were mixed bags, what's your opinion about that? ( despite everything i like SEEN ONE EARTH )   Nice to see some appreciation for Seen One Earth! It's a bit of a mixed bag, but the title track is a sublime work, worth the price of admission, IMO! It's long OOP but well worth hunting down.   Unfortunately, I didn't much care for Speed Of Light, and Water Colors is a very subdued recording (but that was Peter's intention).   I used to have The Answer, his pre-Camel solo album. Good if you like the early '70s proto-prog sound.

i agree , the answer is a nice album but not realy outstanding