UK: AV Referendum, your vote?

 

Dean wrote: Padraic wrote: The Hemulen wrote: Padraic wrote: So basically you're to be left with two parties in Parliament with AV. No, there'll be about as broad a spread as there currently is (mostly Labour and Tory, a reasonable chunk of Lib Dems, a scattering of MPs from Irish, Welsh and Scottish parties and, if we're lucky, a Green or two). AV is a system which will certainly benefit the major parties more than the minority parties, but not to the same ludicrous extent as FPTP, where an MP can win their seat on less than 30% of the overall vote. Sorry, I was being a bit obtuse yesterday.  I see that all this does is insure whatever MP gets elected in a "district" or whatever you call it gets a majority vote as a result of AV. Doesn't seem like that bad of an idea, what are the pitfalls that you guys see with this? That's the catch - there are no apparent pitfall. The No campaign has made some wild claims, but none of those have stood up to scrutiny.

Exactly. The No campaign's claims have ranged from patronising "it's far too complicated!" bullsh*t to completely fabricated figures about how much it will cost "AV or dead babies? YOU decide!". They've run a disgraceful campaign, and it's been frustrating to see so many normally rational, intelligent people fall for their outrageous and fictitious claims.

The only true downside to AV is that it doesn't solve the problem of proportionality. That will only happen through a system like Single Transferable Vote, but option was never on the table and if the No campaign wins (like everyone's predicting) then it probably never will be.

[The No campaign's claims have ranged from patronising "it's far too complicated!" bullsh*t to completely fabricated figures about how much it will cost "AV or dead babies? YOU decide!".
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Obviously a stupid campaign. If the choice is between AV and dead babies, I’d choose AV.

akamaisondufromage wrote: Right.  I voted.  I voted Yes.  It was always a choice  between yes or spoiled ballot.  But I think it might have been these stupid No adverts on this very site that swang it for me.  Oh well not sure thats the right way to go about things though.

Seems the right choice to me. Btw, yesterday I was a little confused by one of your comments – it seemed like you thought a "No" vote was a vote for PR (which I interpet as proportional representation), though in fact I think (and hope) that you mean the opposite. Am I right?

refugee wrote: akamaisondufromage wrote: Right.  I voted.  I voted Yes.  It was always a choice  between yes or spoiled ballot.  But I think it might have been these stupid No adverts on this very site that swang it for me.  Oh well not sure thats the right way to go about things though. Seems the right choice to me. Btw, yesterday I was a little confused by one of your comments – it seemed like you thought a "No" vote was a vote for PR (which I interpet as proportional representation), though in fact I think (and hope) that you mean the opposite. Am I right?

 

Bonnek wrote: Wow this AV looks complicated, wouldn't you be better off without a government at all just like us here?

Anarchy.

Now I see. But then we know, it’s only human to misunderstand each other.

Dean wrote: Snow Dog wrote: I voted No and Labour and Labour. Which seems the right choice to me. Voted Yes and Lib/Dem and Labour. (only one L/D candidate).

I would never vote for those Plaid fascists.

If I was British, and if the new system was implemented, I would probably have voted:

1. Green
2. Labour
3. The beautiful woman who hates war and wants everybody to be happy.