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The Monodrone
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Posted: May 03 2011 at 12:20 |
2001> Barry Lyndon> Dr. Strangelove> A Clockwork Orange (though the book is better)
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thellama73
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Posted: May 03 2011 at 12:25 |
I do think Barry Lyndon is his most technically perfect film, but I enjoy the Shining more.
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The Monodrone
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Posted: May 03 2011 at 12:26 |
thellama73 wrote:
I do think Barry Lyndon is his most technically perfect film, but I enjoy the Shining more.
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Lyndon is a perfect film, IMO.
I'm not a big fan of FMJ.
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Posted: May 03 2011 at 12:29 |
The Monodrone wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
I do think Barry Lyndon is his most technically perfect film, but I enjoy the Shining more.
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Lyndon is a perfect film, IMO.
I'm not a big fan of FMJ. |
I like the first half, but am pretty uninterested in the rest.
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Posted: May 03 2011 at 12:34 |
THe Shining followed by Dr Strangelove
(I haven't seen BL though)
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Posted: May 03 2011 at 14:58 |
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I am a huge Kubrick Fan and wondering how many others out there appreciate his genius...
questions to answer....
What does the end of 2001 mean?
What does the end of The Shining mean?
Is it me, or was Barry Lyndon boring?
Do you agree that 2001 A Space Odyssey is Kubrick's warning about the proposed hoax of Appollo landings?
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I went with 2001 but you can't seriously believe in those ludicrous conspracy theorie that the moon landings were faked
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TheClosing
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Posted: May 03 2011 at 15:18 |
1. The Shining 2. A Clockwork Orange 3. 2001: A Space Odyssey
All three are essential films. And yes, Barry Lyndon is boring.
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The Monodrone
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Posted: May 03 2011 at 16:12 |
TheClosing wrote:
1. The Shining 2. A Clockwork Orange 3. 2001: A Space Odyssey
All three are essential films. And yes, Barry Lyndon is boring. |
lolwut
too bad you can't appreciate it. it's one of his best.
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thellama73
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Posted: May 03 2011 at 17:02 |
TheClosing wrote:
1. The Shining 2. A Clockwork Orange 3. 2001: A Space Odyssey
All three are essential films. And yes, Barry Lyndon is boring. |
I don't think it's boring, but it is long and slow. It's less slow than 2001, though, which I also love.
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Posted: May 03 2011 at 17:45 |
thellama73 wrote:
TheClosing wrote:
1. The Shining
2. A Clockwork Orange
3. 2001: A Space Odyssey
All three are essential films. And yes, Barry Lyndon is boring. |
I don't think it's boring, but it is long and slow. It's less slow than 2001, though, which I also love.
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With Lyndon there is no doubt it has sumptious cinematography and very powerful paintig style frames with amazing dim lighting. It works more as paintings in an art gallery. It is tedious and mind bogglingly slow. That is the intention of course and i wish Kubrick had been able to make NAPOLEON instead as that was his dream.
2001: is mesmirising - it is slow but it kind of hypnotises you. There will never be such a movie made again as it is one of a kind with its narrative structure. I usually want to flick past the ape sequence but it is still vital to telling the whole story. The ape sequence actually is mirrired in the sequence where Floyd is deceiving the Russians - the water hole is replaced by drinks, the knock over the head with the jawbone is replaced by silence about the Monolith discovery, and the jibberish of the apes is replaced by the jibberish of Floyd who says basically nothing to them, the conversation is completey irrelevant. They greet each other, offer drinks, talk about his family, Elena's family, then Floyd tells them nothing. Interesting when you look at this scene as a parallel to the ape sequence. Also the leopard with his shining eyes that attacks the ape, is replaced by the leopard suited photographer who snaps Floyd in the briefing session, his cuff links are shining like eyes... very clever
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Posted: May 03 2011 at 17:48 |
I watched Lolita last night and was very fidgety during this as it is very long, and the characters are bland. Sellers is as good as always, Mason is unwatchable, the girl who plays Lolita is funny, but Shelley Winters is as bad as it gets. I thought it was rather a misfire despite critical acclaim and so called controversey. It gets no love here I noticed with not a single vote. There are no amazing scenes that stick out, Kubricks iconic imagery is missing - it gets about 2 out of 5 from me.
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Posted: May 03 2011 at 19:07 |
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
I watched Lolita last night and was very fidgety during this as it is very long, and the characters are bland. Sellers is as good as always, Mason is unwatchable, the girl who plays Lolita is funny, but Shelley Winters is as bad as it gets. I thought it was rather a misfire despite critical acclaim and so called controversey. It gets no love here I noticed with not a single vote. There are no amazing scenes that stick out, Kubricks iconic imagery is missing - it gets about 2 out of 5 from me.
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Haven't seen the movie, but couldn't get halfway through the book it was so awful
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Posted: May 03 2011 at 19:17 |
The Monodrone wrote:
lolwut
too bad you can't appreciate it. it's one of his best. |
Opinions are as they say, like ...
You think the book, "A Clockwork Orange" is better than the film and I respectfully disagree. The last chapter of the book ruins the entire story and turns out to be some sappy coming of age tale. I much prefer Kubrick's cynical take, that people are who they are. Not to mention the cinematography and soundtrack capture the essence of morbidity in a way the book never comes close to accomplishing.
Edited by TheClosing - May 04 2011 at 04:19
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Posted: May 04 2011 at 03:42 |
I have read Clockwork Orange too and found it too literal compared to the iconic film.
I am reading 2001 now and it is totally different but very enjoyable - Arthur C Clarke is a genius writer...
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Posted: May 04 2011 at 04:30 |
LOL at Barry Lyndon being long and boring. On the contrary, there's a whole novel stuffed there in three hours of film. If that's long and boring, I wonder how would you feel reading the novel...
I suspect that what is "lacking" from that perspective is more dramatic contrast inside and especially between scenes, but that would have gone against the story and the spirit of classical 18th century society and culture which is supposed to be portrayed there (and it is, successfully I may add).
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Posted: May 04 2011 at 07:29 |
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
I watched Lolita last night and was very fidgety during this as it is very long, and the characters are bland. Sellers is as good as always, Mason is unwatchable, the girl who plays Lolita is funny, but Shelley Winters is as bad as it gets. I thought it was rather a misfire despite critical acclaim and so called controversey. It gets no love here I noticed with not a single vote. There are no amazing scenes that stick out, Kubricks iconic imagery is missing - it gets about 2 out of 5 from me.
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I think it is pretty good, but I find it very difficult to watch. For some reason it upsets me.
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Posted: May 15 2011 at 08:31 |
Kubrick is a personal favorite and I like all of these movies. Personal favorite is Full Metal Jacket. The first part of the film in basic training is amazing. Close behind would be 2001 and then Clockwork Orange(3 buddies and I dressed up as The Droogs for Halloween while in collage).
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Posted: May 15 2011 at 09:01 |
Eyes Wide Shut and very close The Shinning. Those 2 movies had a great impact on my movie life. The atmosphere in his films are incredible. It's like your in between a dream and a nightmare.
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Posted: May 16 2011 at 17:29 |
Stanley Kubrick is my favorite director. I've seen all of his films except Paths of Glory and Spartacus. My favorite is Clockwork Orange, this film is just pure bliss. In second comes Eyes Wide Shut, and then Barry Lyndon.
There was an amateur filmaker, film analyst and Kubrick fanatic named Rob Agger who had a site, but it seemed to have been taken off the internet; on it, he analyzed every major Kubrick films, after having read every interviews and archives on Kubrick, after having read the
novels from which the movies were inspired, and comparing movie &
film. after having viewed them frame by frame (and noticing strange things, such as objects being moved from shelves... which at first seems random, but which was done for a reason; or zooming in on the title on the spine of books sitting on the shelves, and actually realizing that the books Kubrick had placed in the shot explained the scene; and so on...), if you ever chance upon one of these analysis, you'll be amazed to realize everything is not what is seems in Kubrick's films.
For those of you who wonder why the book 2001:A Space Odyssey didn't transcribe accurately on the screen, it is because, as for A Clockwork Orange, Kubrick had a different vision of where he wanted to take the story, and had a strong disagreement with both Arthur C. Clarke and Anthony Burgess.
My interpretation of 2001's ending is that it represents man's cycle described in Zarathustra by Nietzsche (which is also the music played at the end, Zarathustra by Richard Strauss), although I've only read it partially; if memory serves me well, man gets old and becomes a child again (I mean in the book), but of an advanced human species. I'm sure someone will correct me on this because I may be wrong...
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Posted: May 17 2011 at 17:48 |
It's very close between 2001 and Eyes Wide Shut, but I'll go with 2001.
I guess the top 5 would be: 1) 2001 2) Eyes Wide Shut . . . 3) The Shinning 4) Full Metal Jacket 5) A Clockwork Orange
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