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Your
biography has been covered in your ProgArchives profile so let's bypass the
biography details. But which bands were you influenced by ?
Violeta
de Outono was a band formed in the early 80’s, but we grew up listening to the
rock music of the 70’s. Despite we became professionals in the 80’s, we wanted
to make music like our heroes, Syd Barrett, Gong, Soft Machine, Caravan. The
result was that we translated those ideas filtered by the grey feelings of the
eighties - some people say we did a ‘grey psychedelia’. The early Violeta de
Outono sounded more like Pink Floyd ‘69 era without keyboards, and the present
band has a Caravan/Camel Canterbury flavour.
This
is an archive based interview also intended for the fans you get well after both
you and I have passed away so let's go straight to your albums. Please give us
your long or brief views on your albums, starting with.......
Memories
from 1987
This
album was not officially released but it was a collection of demos recorded in
1984. It was compiled in 1990, first as a cassette, because we started a
parallel promotion of our music by running a kind of network called “Invisivel”.
It was inspired by and followed the same model of GAS (Gong Appreciation
Society), where we could make available live tapes, unreleased tracks, etc. that
our major company (RCA at the time) didn´t want to release
officially.
Violeta
De Outono from 1987
This
was our debut LP, recorded at the very famous RCA studios in Sao Paulo. All the
great equipment of that time was there: Neve console, the best amps &
microphones, and everything. We decided to run against the rule of the studios
at that time, and recorded live in studio, to take advantage of that fantastic
room’s acoustics. This album is very empty and has a lot of organic sounds, but
we were only a trio, the original line-up with Angelo Pastorello on bass,
Claudio Souza on drums and myself on guitar & vocals. The album had 3-4
songs that were very pop-oriented, which helped us to be “approved” by the main
radio stations in Brazil, which in turn helped us to survive going
ahead...
Early
Years from 1988
Before
our first LP, we recorded an EP with 3 songs through a small label in Sao Paulo,
called Wop Bop. We chose one pop song, one intermediate and one more “complex”
song, to show our concepts of Violeta de Outono. This EP was very successful, so
that small label smartly made a new contract with us, between our renew with
RCA, to make another EP with some of our repertoire of cover songs that were
influential to our development. We took 4 psychedelic tunes: one of Stones
(“Citadel”), one of George Harrison (“Within You Without You”), one of Pink
Floyd, Barrett’s era (“Interstellar Overdrive”), and one from my inspiration,
Gong (the Continental Circus album) - we chose “Blues for Findlay” as it was
something that we liked to do on stage, as free improvising. This
recording was not released in 1988 - only 500 cassettes were pressed at that
time -, but it was officially released in 2000 by Voiceprint Records, including
a bonus track recorded at rehearsals (“Echoes”, blending with Led Zeppelin´s “No
Quarter”).
Em
Toda Parte from 1989
This
LP was a kind of challenge for us. We had a good reputation with our first LP of
1987, which sold very well and received many good reviews, but we’d like to go
ahead for more experimental fields, something like our masters did, when they
started simple stuff in the 60’s and then became more sophisticated on every
album. I met a guy that had just arrived from New York in 1988, bringing his
Atari sequencer loaded of samples, and we thought that we could incorporate
those new technologies in our psychedelic music, producing something like
Gong-ish sounds but using sequencers, synthesized drones, instead of real vibes
and percussion. This album was composed and produced in studio (at the same
great RCA), but the record company didn’t feel any “commercial” track in it so
they left us with our LP but with very few promotion... This ended up
discouraging the band, but we felt that it was important to keep our concepts on
the way.
Woman
On The Mountain from 1999
In
1994 BMG decided to release our LPs (Violeta de Outono & Em Toda Parte) on a
single CD. We agreed immediately and went to a good mastering studio in Sao
Paulo, to try to master two albums with completely different characteristics
into one compilation CD. We took that opportunity to compose some new fresh
material, to be released together with this reissue. New demos were recorded,
but, unfortunately, BMG had no interest in our new songs. We played those new
songs live many times until 1999, when I met Rob Ayling of Voiceprint. In 1999 I
became a distributor for Voiceprint Records in Brazil and, to celebrate the
coming of Rob to Sao Paulo, I released these demos as the first release of my
Voiceprint Brazil label. Although there’s some good compositions in this album,
we tried to sound much as our first album so it was not a real refreshing work
for the band.
Early
Years Complete from 2000
This
is another unofficial release compiled with live tracks, rehearsals, unfinished
tracks covering our early inspirations, music of Syd Barrett, Daevid Allen, Jimi
Hendrix, Rolling Stones, Beatles, Byrds... most of the tracks are for fans of
the band only, as they have very poor sound / performance
quality.
Ilhas
from 2005
Ilhas
is the transition to what I can say that is the most happy period of the band.
In 1995 we met Fabio Ribeiro, a great keyboard player, and decided to add new
colours to the band: the tones of organ and piano. So Fabio Ribeiro went on to
play some great gigs with us (including Rio Art Rock Festival 1997, where we
recorded a live album). This was a definite change to the sound of Violeta de
Outono, and brought us closer to progressive music. Unfortunately, we didn’t
manage to go to a studio together as a band, but we composed some material and
Fabio did great arrangements in many songs, such as “Jupiter”, where he played
a nice Nord Lead piano, and the remarkable synthesizers on Mahavishnu. This was
another album that was composed in studio, but after that we had a very precise
vision of where to go to...
Volume
7 from 2007
This
is for me the best and happiest album that we did with Violeta de Outono. From
the choice of going back to Mosh Studios, the best studio in Sao Paulo (with the
help of the owner of the studio, who gave us support), through the way we did
the album, to the musical results. We started as we did on our first album:
composing, rehearsing, arranging for a long time in our studio, then going to
the big one. The result was that we recorded all of the stuff live with very
few, almost no overdubs, except vocals and some pianos. This produced a very
warm and organic sound that I can’t explain exactly, but was embedded on that
recording - the energy among us was flowing with great harmony. One of my
favourite tracks is “Fronteira”, where I could look back to the Caravan
influence and finally bring it to our music. The sound of the Hammond organ was
a highlight, creating a good balance between the rough sound of a guitar trio
and a classic 70’s sound quartet. Volume
7 is the definite direction for our future works with Violeta de Outono.
and
your live albums Eclipse Ao Vivo from 1995 and Live At The Rio ArtRock Festival
'97 from 2001
Eclipse
was not intended to be a live album, but it was the best recording that we had
from that period (1986) and the label Record Runner pushed us to put it out on a
CD, as they said it would be worthy. It features our main repertoire at that
time, unreleased until the 1st LP in 1987. It captures the way the band was live
as a power trio. Live At Rio Art Rock Festival ‘97 was very well recorded and
mixed by Vinicius Brazil of Aether. This release is important as it predicts how
the band will sound later... the set list is from old stuff and the Mulher Na
Montanha CD.
How
would you describe your musical development from Ritual to Origins and how would
you describe your music ?
Since
I decided to be a musician, I must say that I did the things I’d like to do even
if they didn’t go to the successful side. I started to play guitar at age 15,
but the music that changed my mind, vision and behaviour was Soft Machine’s
Third album, and there’s no guitar on it. Later in 1977 I discovered Gong’s
Angels Egg, and I found a new universe before me. This, associated with my
interest on oriental cultures & mysteries, became the basis of my feelings
about what and how to play music. The teachings of Daevid Allen on the mythic
Gong trilogy was very attractive, and matched what I was trying to look for at
17... My first band was Lux, in 1978, and it had many of the Gong influences
that I still have until now. I think that I underwent a development during all
these long years, but I can say that my main goal is still the same: to produce
music that can be a vehicle for good vibes and feeling - there were lots of
change but I think that I play the same music since the beginning. Technically
speaking, I play guitar very influenced by Syd Barrett’s atmospheric sounds,
Daevid Allen’s glissando and Steve Hillage echo patterns, using lots of devices
such as metal rods, slides, echo units, loopers, compressor and my old and good
one Fuzz Face.
You
have released a lot of albums and have done some gigs. What is your experiences
with the music industry and the gigs promotors ?
We
had a great time during the years at RCA/BMG. We were allowed to produce the
music we wanted, if we didn’t receive a better recognition it was due to the
kind of music we did, and due to our posture, to be non-commercial. On the other
side, that gave us a nice ‘cult’ status that allowed the band to exist until
now. If we went to television, such as any commercial product, I’m sure that we
would have splitted after the next summer... The long way was harder, but we
could continue to produce albums that we liked, composing and playing without
concessions. Concerning
gigs and promoters we were not so lucky, Brazil is very huge, and we had many
difficulties to take our concerts to distant places. Nowadays it seems a bit
better, as the conditions are much more comfortable than those of 30 years ago;
there’s a bit more money to support the alternative music
business. Your
band is big in South America, but perhaps not that big outside this continent.
Is there any plans to really conquer the rest of the world too ?
Conquer
the universe would be better ...lol.... I believe that the last album, Volume 7,
finally has what I think is an international feeling. In Brazil we are known
mainly because of the grey psychedelic material from the 80’s, and even if we
produce completely new music, we always will be associated here with the old
trio of the 80’s. But this is another band, it is the same if you compare the
Soft Machine Volume One album to, say, their Bundles album. I
believe that, if we could produce the new album following what we started on
Volume 7, maybe we will have a chance outside South America - despite the fact
that some of our previous albums are known in Europe and the US, we consider
Volume 7 to be our real “debut” outside Brazil.
Please
also tell us more about your other project Invisible Opera Company Of Tibet
(Brazil).
This
is a chapter apart. Since I inspired my music by Gong, I wanted to meet these
guys... During the 80’s I was in constant contact with GAS, and in 1987-1988 I
received an invitation for a workshop that would be ministered by Daevid in
Dover. (Rob Ayling organized that to help Daevid to come back from Australia for
a long time). Unfortunately I could not go, because I had just returned from my
first trip to UK in November 1987... anyway, soon after that my friend May East,
who lives in Findhorn, Scotland, told me that she was releasing a CD on the same
label as Daevid, the AMP Records, and she did a connection between us. So I sent
him my new music, that I would share as Invisible Opera Company Of Tibet,
according to his concepts of an international band. This flourished and ended up
in a gig in Brazil in 1992, when Daevid came to play with us. After that I
recorded the Glissando Spirit album, and then Voiceprint Records asked me to
release it in the UK, also thanks to a good review on the Facelift Magazine.
This was really great for me, I’m very grateful to all these great friends and
gurus, they included me on the Gong Family... Beside the production of The
Invisible Opera Company Of Tibet (Brazilian version), which also has many
recordings, I’m very proud of two releases I´ve participated in: The first is
the DVD Glissando Guitar Orchestrae, that played in Amsterdam during the Gong
Unconvention 2006, where we did the Seven Drones with 10 guitarists, including
Steve Hillage, Kawabata Makoto, Harry Williamson, Daevid Allen, Josh Pollock,
Steffe Sharpstrings, Brian Zero, Steve Higgins, Jerry Bewley and myself. It was
absolutely fantastic to share the stage with such great musicians! The second
release is the DVD of the Gong Global Family Live in Brazil. We invited Daevid
to play here with Josh Pollock and Michael Clare of University of Errors, and
together with Invisible Opera Company Of Tibet we formed a new band and did some
concerts playing and celebrating Gong and Soft Machine music.
What
is your current status and what is your plans for this year and beyond
?
I
have just released Invisible Opera Company Of Tibet - UFO Planante, and I’m very
happy as it is an album produced very spontaneously with my mates Gabriel Costa
and Fred Barley (the same line up of Gong Global Family). It’s exciting free
music that opens new doors. The plan is to play live and try some festivals, who
knows, outside Brazil? I’m
also finishing the mix of the new Violeta de Outono CD - it is called Espectro
and is due to be released soon.
Is
music your main occupation in life or do the Violeta De Outono members have
“normal” daytime jobs too ?
Yes,
music is our main occupation, although Violeta de Outono cannot provide us our
daily life. I work also distributing music, Voiceprint Records, Moonjune
Records, labels of friends, and have some other parallel jobs; Gabriel Costa,
the bass player, is a musician most of the time but he also has some other jobs
in the book publishing area; Fernando Cardoso, keyboard player, besides playing
with Violeta de Outono, is also a harpsichord soloist and a music teacher. Fred
Barley, the current drummer, is a professional musician playing with many names
here in Brazil, from Brazilian jazz to pop groups.
To
wrap up this interview, is there anything you want to add to this interview
?
I’d
like to say thanks a lot for this opportunity to show my words in this great
portal, ProgArchives. I’m really very happy to do it and I’d like to wish you a
long life and thanks for keeping alive this fantastic music that we, prog fans,
love so much.
Thank you to Fabio for this interview
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Posted: April 29 2011 at 15:38
Amazing stuff Torodd ! I almost had tears in my eyes reading what Fabio said about their "Volume 7" album.A recording that is difficult to explain because it has to be felt.One of my all time favourites and one that moves me everytime i hear it.
Edited by Mellotron Storm - April 29 2011 at 22:12
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