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    Posted: November 14 2004 at 16:40

If so or if not, why?

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2004 at 16:48
Where are the symphonic musical passages, the carefully- honed musicianship the 5 minute keyboard and guitar solos. Besides the drummer isn't an egomaniac who split the group.LOL



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2004 at 16:50
They've had some prog moments, but not enough to get listed in here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2004 at 16:52

The Beatles were a great pop band.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2004 at 17:01
Ring around the rosie....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2004 at 17:08
....a pocket full of poseurs!Wink



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2004 at 17:16

Saying the Beatles are prog is like saying that Robert Johnson is rock and roll; not technically, but without them it might never have happened. Every single autobiography I've read from the classic prog musicians mention that they got into music because of the Beatles (even Zappa!). They took a trendy jukebox teen genre and gave it artistic credibility, worldwide awareness, and a sense that different (and sometimes exotic) musical influences should be sought out and incorporated into the style.

They also were some of the first musicians to have a hit with a Mellotron and make a concept album 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2004 at 19:31
you raise a valid point. prog or not, they dont belong on this site.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2004 at 20:40

No.Stern Smile

Ermm Prog owes them a debt, as James said (Clap), but the Beatles aren't prog, just as early country and blues, which would lead to rock & roll, are not themselves rock and roll.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2004 at 02:27

George Martin made The Beatles sound progressive and Yoko Oh-Noo didnīt.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2004 at 05:20

Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Where are the symphonic musical passages, Well, they had an orchestra on Sgt Peppers - does that count? But hang on! Where are Hawkwind or Can's symphonic passages? There's prolly other so-called prog bands that make this glaring omission...

 the carefully- honed musicianship Carefully honed musicianship? Aren't we talking about the Beatles here?

 the 5 minute keyboard and guitar solos. Where are the 5 minute guitar solos in Comus?   ...I think you're getting confused with 5 minute solo (where is he these days???) Besides the drummer isn't an egomaniac who split the group. Bass players can be egomaniacs that split the group too - and so can guitarists, keyboardists, vocalists and girlfriends...LOL

But you're right. The Beatles were hugely progressive, but not prog. Compare any Beatles album to any pre 3-man Genesis album and, if you have ears, you will understand

 

 

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2004 at 05:35
...thus everything which emerged during that period is prog!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2004 at 05:49
NO. Not Prog
They were a Rock 'n' Roll band a Folk Rock band
a Psychedelic band but never a Prog Rock band.
And before anybody mentions side 2? of Abbey Road,
that was a 'rock' medley.The closest any of the Beatles
got to prog was Ringo's appearance in Frank Zappa's
200 Motels


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2004 at 09:06

Don't forget "Yellow Submarine" - it's got silly lyrics telling a silly story, a silly voice, and a silly "symphonic" section (i, so it's obviously a silly prog song.

But Ringo got all egotistical and split the band up over musical differences - he wanted to do a follow-up called blue aeroplane, and a concept album about Rolls-Royces, featuring a song about a Yellow Rolls-Royce, a psychedelic Rolls-Royce (in honour of John...) and a Pink Rolls-Royce with 6 wheels and a chauffeur who says "Yes, bi'lady"...

They got back together shortly after he came down from the sugar cubes and everyone reminded him that drummers couldn't split bands because of musical differences - he'd have to come up with something more realistic. Before he'd had time to think of anything (being a drummer), John brought in Yoko...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2004 at 11:41
I think it's funny that William Friedkin was the Yoko Ono of Genesis.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2004 at 11:51
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Where are the symphonic musical passages, Well, they had an orchestra on Sgt Peppers - does that count? But hang on! Where are Hawkwind or Can's symphonic passages? There's prolly other so-called prog bands that make this glaring omission...

 the carefully- honed musicianship Carefully honed musicianship? Aren't we talking about the Beatles here?

 the 5 minute keyboard and guitar solos. Where are the 5 minute guitar solos in Comus?   ...I think you're getting confused with 5 minute solo (where is he these days???) Besides the drummer isn't an egomaniac who split the group. Bass players can be egomaniacs that split the group too - and so can guitarists, keyboardists, vocalists and girlfriends...LOL

But you're right. The Beatles were hugely progressive, but not prog. Compare any Beatles album to any pre 3-man Genesis album and, if you have ears, you will understand

Thanks Cert, but i've known I'm always right for a very long time!LOL

You old concert penis You!Wink



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2004 at 14:15

Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

I think the whole world should be populated by people like me

Thanks Cert, but i've known I'm always right for a very long time!LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2004 at 14:35

Ya boo-underhand tactics. You are a con Cert penis!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2004 at 00:08
yes, all the big bands turned to psycedelics around
65-67, there music became psycedelic and
progressive thats the formula to true progressive
music, talent, intelligence and mind alteration!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2004 at 07:30

NO!

Reason: "I wanna hold your ha-a-and
I wanna hold your hand"

"She loves me yeah yeah yeah"

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