Genesis best Prog band ever?

Progosopher wrote: 1st option, although I will not say there are, or were, bands better than Genesis, but there have certainly been those that are their equal.  That was not an option, so the closest to my view is option #1.  Others have listed some I consider equals: Yes, Gentle Giant, Jethro Tull, King Crimson, Pink Floyd, Frank Zappa, Magma, dare I say ELP?  Just look at the albums from the same era.  No one band is the absolute best, no one artist is the absolute best.  There are too many criteria, too many variations possible in the creation and performance of music.  There is no fully objective standard to analyze and quantify that will place one above any of the others.  Each of the bands in consideration could do things the others really could not.

I really like this response!

I think Genesis debut weak, and would say that bands such as Magma, Tangerine Dream, Soft machine, Amon Duul II, Gentle Giant and King Crimson, as well as later ones such as Univers Zero and Art Zoyd with the debut LPs came out of the gates much stronger.  Though I don't think that highly of Udu Wudu, though still good, I think all of Magma's earlier albums excellent, and I think Art Zoyd's first run of eight albums excellent, as well as other very strong later ones.

Area had a very strong run for its first five.

Gabriel-era Genesis didn't peak until The Lamb in my opinion, and then it was over.


Edited by Logan - March 20 2011 at 22:22

Uh, genesis has AT MOST a string of 2 above average album

Logan wrote: I think Genesis debut weak, and would say that bands such as Magma, Tangerine Dream, Soft machine, Amon Duul II, Gentle Giant and King Crimson, as well as later ones such as Univers Zero and Art Zoyd with the debut LPs came out of the gates much stronger.  Though I don't think that highly of Udu Wudu, though still good, I think all of Magma's earlier albums excellent, and I think Art Zoyd's first run of eight albums excellent, as well as other very strong later ones. Area had a very strong run for its first five. Gabriel-era Genesis didn't peak until The Lamb in my opinion, and then it was over.

Wow, you're a tough nut to crack! Who is At Zoyd? Never heard of 'em. I've just started listening to Soft Machine, very nice stuff. 

"They've quite pissed me off at times (especially Paper Late)."

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: I believe nobody can top 7 masterpieces in a row as Genesis 1.- Trespass 2.- NC 3.- Foxtrot 4.- SEBTP 5.- TLLDOB 6.- ATOTT 7.- W&W And I do believe Genesis is the best band ever...But that's my taste. Iván

YES!

tarkus1980 wrote: "They've quite pissed me off at times (especially Paper Late)."   "Paperlate" is a marvelous pop song.

The radio station where I was at at the time, had built up this big anticipation of the "New Genesis" song.

Steven Brodziak wrote: Logan wrote: I think Genesis debut weak, and would say that bands such as Magma, Tangerine Dream, Soft machine, Amon Duul II, Gentle Giant and King Crimson, as well as later ones such as Univers Zero and Art Zoyd with the debut LPs came out of the gates much stronger.  Though I don't think that highly of Udu Wudu, though still good, I think all of Magma's earlier albums excellent, and I think Art Zoyd's first run of eight albums excellent, as well as other very strong later ones. Area had a very strong run for its first five. Gabriel-era Genesis didn't peak until The Lamb in my opinion, and then it was over. Wow, you're a tough nut to crack! Who is At Zoyd? Never heard of 'em. I've just started listening to Soft Machine, very nice stuff.

ART ZOYD is a French "Rock in Opposition (RIO)" band on the chamber rock/ music side. It has a Magma infleunce and it's similar to Univers Zero and Present but doesn't get as much attention.  An essential and great RIO band, I think, but I wouldn't expect most people here to enjoy the music.

I like Gabriel era Genesis a lot, but ahead of their albums I put

Yes, King Crimson, Zappa, Gentle Giant and last but not least Magma. Also Hatfield And The North, National Health are much better than Genesis. List could continue after morning coffee and cigarette ...


Edited by akaBona - March 21 2011 at 02:31

The Quiet One wrote: King Crimson: Court, Lizard, Islands, Larks', Starless, Red. (those are 6)   Yes: Yes Album, Fragile, CTTE, Tales, Relayer. (those are 5, you actually listed 5 Genesis albums)   Pink Floyd: Meddle, Dark Side, Wish, Animals, Wall. (another 5)   Soft Machine: 2, 3, 6, 7, Bundles   Zappa: Hot Rats, Grand Wazoo, Waka/Jawaka, Over-Nite, One Size, Apostrophe, Roxy, Zappa in NYC, Sleep Dirt...and so on...   Conclusion: there are many of great 70s bands that can match Genesis' "Gold era".

This. Sums it up pretty well.