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Joined: November 12 2010
Location: Funkytown
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Posted: December 08 2010 at 12:58
stonebeard wrote:
Suspend all additions to prog-related indefinitely.
That's my opinion and I think we should have done it 3 years ago.
I don't know if that would have the effect some people would want it to have. Wasn't there a bit of controversy not too long ago about additions to certain other categories that would probably fit much better into Prog-related, but they weren't getting in because the criteria was made more restrictive?
Joined: February 18 2004
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 29452
Posted: March 17 2011 at 17:31
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
^^^ a long shot... but still a shot!
Numan is related to many styles - pioneer of techno, pioneer of dark synth tracks, pioneer of NIN Industrial style. His influence is huge. too many write him off as a one hit wonder with Cars. He is not doing any Cars-style or related songs now. Check out his DVDs I have them - they are very dark and NIN like. NIN are here. Numan himself would want to be here.
i have emailed Numan on his website and I will tell you what he says.
"Dear Mr Numan. We are wondering on the progarchives website, is your music progressive, if so would that mean you should be added to the progarchives as an artist. Or are you more prog related. What is your opinion on the type of music you play. NIN are on the archives too just to let you know. If you talk to Trent Reznor can you ask him too? Ask what he thinks about being added to progarchives as an artist. i will pass all information to the administrators on a thread when you respond. Thanks"
What was the answer?
btw Replicas falls comfortably into the area of electronic prog although pretty much everything after that was eighties synth pop imo.
Joined: February 03 2007
Location: The Heartland
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Points: 17298
Posted: March 17 2011 at 17:46
I just got my first Numan album last week (Pleasure Principle I think its called) and the premise is interesting. It's not my personal idea of "prog-rock" but there are some very cool progressive elements to the music. I wouldn't mind being able to review it here if someone adds him.
...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
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Points: 37575
Posted: March 17 2011 at 17:57
I've heard everything he's ever released and while he has slight proggy moments from time to time, I don't see it as direct influence or any other direct connection. So, I don't think Mr Web should be here
However, I will request that Scott keeps his avatar of Nick Drakes' sister until Numan is added.
Joined: July 02 2008
Location: Australia
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Points: 14258
Posted: March 17 2011 at 19:26
richardh wrote:
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
^^^ a long shot... but still a shot!
Numan is related to many styles - pioneer of techno, pioneer of dark synth tracks, pioneer of NIN Industrial style. His influence is huge. too many write him off as a one hit wonder with Cars. He is not doing any Cars-style or related songs now. Check out his DVDs I have them - they are very dark and NIN like. NIN are here. Numan himself would want to be here.
i have emailed Numan on his website and I will tell you what he says.
"Dear Mr Numan. We are wondering on the progarchives website, is your music progressive, if so would that mean you should be added to the progarchives as an artist. Or are you more prog related. What is your opinion on the type of music you play. NIN are on the archives too just to let you know. If you talk to Trent Reznor can you ask him too? Ask what he thinks about being added to progarchives as an artist. i will pass all information to the administrators on a thread when you respond. Thanks"
What was the answer?
btw Replicas falls comfortably into the area of electronic prog although pretty much everything after that was eighties synth pop imo.
Numan refused to answer....
Although it appears that the questions sent to his official site are primarily for a new interview coming up after the tours so he may yet answer, but no correspondence to individuals is given.
I have followed his music since Cars and onto his latest Dead Son Rising.... it has moved through a number of genres over the years and it is easy to pick them out when you have them all according to specific albums and images.
Tubeway Army - The Plan: the punk years, cyber punk image
Replicas to Telekon: Electro New wave - synthesizer heavy, android image
Dance - Warriors: girl vocals and sax years (almost cyber disco). image was android in a suit with silver lips, mad max image too.
Beserker: New sound, no sax, lots more girl backing vocals. White face, blue hair image.
Strange Charm: commercial radio friendly sound, girls, heavy bass, Blade Runner influences. leather jacket image.
Outland: sounds of Predator movie; image like a demi god in white.
Sacrifice - Exile: much more dark, image of an anti-god with darker lyrics.
Pure - Jagged: Industrial prog. First step away from the old styles. Much heavier guitars and synth.
Joined: July 02 2008
Location: Australia
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Points: 14258
Posted: March 17 2011 at 19:35
Dean wrote:
I've heard everything he's ever released and while he has slight proggy moments from time to time, I don't see it as direct influence or any other direct connection. So, I don't think Mr Web should be here
However, I will request that Scott keeps his avatar of Nick Drakes' sister until Numan is added.
I guess the thought crossed my mind to make Numan my avatar. Though Gabrielle is much nicer eye candy and even softens my approach to the posts for some reason, she has that calming effect on me.
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