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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2011 at 06:30
Sorry for the late response.
Alex, you did one heck of a job here! It's really an honor to share the same first name with you.
I would also like to thank you (and SaltyJon) for featuring my quote. I actully had to go back to my review and re-read it in order to believe that I really wrote those words!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 05:15
Oh hey, this is embarrassing, I didn't even notice this thread until just now. With all the time I am here I was expecting when I read the thread to find a post that I had made at 4am some day and completely forgotten about. 

I did not realize people had moved on from Watershed, it's only 43 on the 2008 list. That's not as much of a backlash as bumping Dowsing Anemone down to 94 for 2006, but still. The forum people are much more avant than the general casual reviewing population, so I can explain Dowsing, E-Re, and Clivages, but I can't explain Watershed. Maybe E-Re was able to stay in the top 5 of 2009 because Max never got around to putting up the collabs' choice banner so people didn't feel the need to review it in retaliation. ;-)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 05:50
Ok heres the top 10
 
the actual genres are not very diverse. I thought there were more worthy contenders to be honest.
 
What about Persephone's Dream's "Pan"? and even the latest Star One album...
 
Can't argue with Haken though. Wonderful album.
 
 
1 Clivages (Univers Zero) 231
2 Bateless Edge (Frogg Café) 200
3 Coyote (Kayo Dot) 188
4 Aquarius (Haken) 188
5 Iridule (Yugen) 166
6 Ecailles de lune (Alcest) 152
7 One-Armed Bandit (Jaga Jazist) 146
8 Il Tempio Delle Clessidre 144
9 Marrow Of The Spirit (Agalloch) 142
10 Creation de l'Univers (Xing Sa) 140
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 05:50
I'm looking on the "wayback machine" and in December 2006 Dowsing Anemone was on #68 in the 2006 chart so I don't think there was much of a backlash against them LOL. I guess that will remain the Collab's choice the farthest away from the general tastes... Magma and UZ's albums were both in the top 10 when they won their lists. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 06:01
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Ok heres the top 10
 
the actual genres are not very diverse. I thought there were more worthy contenders to be honest.
 
What about Persephone's Dream's "Pan"? and even the latest Star One album...
 
Can't argue with Haken though. Wonderful album.
 
 
1 Clivages (Univers Zero) 231
2 Bateless Edge (Frogg Café) 200
3 Coyote (Kayo Dot) 188
4 Aquarius (Haken) 188
5 Iridule (Yugen) 166
6 Ecailles de lune (Alcest) 152
7 One-Armed Bandit (Jaga Jazist) 146
8 Il Tempio Delle Clessidre 144
9 Marrow Of The Spirit (Agalloch) 142
10 Creation de l'Univers (Xing Sa) 140
The forums are populated with avant hipsters. I'm actually quite surprised that Haken is even in the top 10.  Shocked
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

I'm looking on the "wayback machine" and in December 2006 Dowsing Anemone was on #68 in the 2006 chart so I don't think there was much of a backlash against them LOL. I guess that will remain the Collab's choice the farthest away from the general tastes... Magma and UZ's albums were both in the top 10 when they won their lists. 
 
Alex, but we all can agree that this particular KD album is among the worst albums Toby ever put out.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 06:05
^ Honestly I haven't heard it yet. Embarrassed

There is a den of the avant-hipsters which we call the Shred, but the majority here is largely into classic prog, retro-symph, classic prog-metal, etc. Which explains the more and more wide gap between the Collabs' Lists and the general chart. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 06:18
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

^ Honestly I haven't heard it yetEmbarrassed

There is a den of the avant-hipsters which we call the Shred, but the majority here is largely into classic prog, retro-symph, classic prog-metal, etc. Which explains the more and more wide gap between the Collabs' Lists and the general chart. 
 
Tu ar trebui să ardă în iad pentru acest.
 
Also, yeah, but > 9000% of the collabs drop by the shred. And having ~20 people on the avant teams doens't help at all with the charts being completelly distorted from the general view.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 06:30
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Tu ar trebui să ardă în iad pentru acest.


LOL & LOL@translator LOL

Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

 
Also, yeah, but > 9000% of the collabs drop by the shred. And having ~20 people on the avant teams doens't help at all with the charts being completelly distorted from the general view.


There were only 8 votes from current or former ZART members, so that doesn't explain the predominance of avant-prog albums in the list as much as the really bad year other genres had does. (EDIT: and for comparison, there were 13 votes from former and current members of the PMT Wink)

Even if what you said was 100% accurate, I still wouldn't see this as distortion, but as the intended diversity provided in relation with the general charts.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 07:28
I didn't vote because I only picked up a couple of prog albums last year. Mind you, having just heard Xing Sa's latest offering, I'm not sure I've really missed much.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2011 at 20:05
Caio dude, hipsters don't listen to avant music; they're too scared off it.  A Shredder is an entirely different entity
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2011 at 03:43
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

I'm looking on the "wayback machine" and in December 2006 Dowsing Anemone was on #68 in the 2006 chart so I don't think there was much of a backlash against them LOL. I guess that will remain the Collab's choice the farthest away from the general tastes... Magma and UZ's albums were both in the top 10 when they won their lists. 

I remembered it being not very popular, but I had forgotten that it was all the down at 68 even in '06. Clivages and E-Re are much more accessible and friendly albums than Dowsing so it makes sense, but I guess that means my point is rather wrong. Oh well.  
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Also, yeah, but > 9000% of the collabs drop by the shred. And having ~20 people on the avant teams doens't help at all with the charts being completelly distorted from the general view.

Besides what Alex pointed out, all the people who are not avant-garde partisans are still generally much more receptive to more experimental music than the random PA browser. 
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Caio dude, hipsters don't listen to avant music; they're too scared off it.  A Shredder is an entirely different entity

Hipsters have limited appreciation of avant-garde music. Pitchfork gave the This Heat reissue a 9 in 2002, and before you say "Well, that was back when they still reviewed Merzbow and John Zorn albums", well, that's true, but they also gave Zs' very brutal 2010 album a 7. It just has to be underground and still have some rock. I mean, isn't Can the most hipster band of the '70s? :P

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2011 at 19:39
Glad to see Sky Architect in top 20 Smile
Great album, and all the updates make the forthcoming one seem rather good Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2011 at 19:04
Should Univers Zero get a banner?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2011 at 03:37
Yes. And Magma too. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2011 at 20:19
Well, I'm new to the forums, but I'd put 'The Great Escape' - Seventh Wonder as my top album of 2010.
 
I'd go out on a limb and say it's every bit as good as:
 
Images And Words - Dream Theater
Operation: Mindcrime - Queensryche
Boston - Boston
Kansas - Leftoverture
 
 
etc etc.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2011 at 19:41
BeerAwesome list. Out of the top 10 that I've heard so far, Jaga Jazzist's One-Armed Bandit and Xing Sa's Creation de l'Universe are most definitely worthy. I need to check out the others, especially Coyote.
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Yes the list is really impressive, you seem to be one taking lot of interest in music... Impressive collection.
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Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

And here is the FULL top, sepparated in digestable chunks and with the point totals:

1Clivages (Univers Zero)231
2Bateless Edge (Frogg Café)200
3Coyote (Kayo Dot)188
4Aquarius (Haken)188
5Iridule (Yugen)166
6Ecailles de lune (Alcest)152
7One-Armed Bandit (Jaga Jazist)146
8Il Tempio Delle Clessidre144
9Marrow Of The Spirit (Agalloch)142
10Creation de l'Univers (Xing Sa)140


11-30:

11We're here because we're here (Anathema)128
12Axioma Ethica Odini (Enslaved) 100
13Heavy Metal Fruit (Motorpsycho)94
14Beacons (Cloudkicker)90
15Valley Of Smoke (Intronaut)84
16Excavations of the mind (Sky Architect)72
17Paracletus (Deathspell Omega)68
18Five Deadly Venoms (Shaolin Death Squad)68
19Il gioco del silenzio (Nichelodeon)67
20A Child in the Mirror (Ciccada)66
21Self-Preserved While The Bodies Float Up (Oceansize)66
22The Never Ending Way Of ORwarriOR (Orphaned Land)65
23Jupiter (Atheist)65
24Il Pittore Volante (Raccomandata con Ricevuta Ritorno)64
25Pan: An Urban Pastoral (Persephone's Dream)64
26Legacy (Hypnos 69)60
27Lover's End (Moon Safari)60
28Blood Of The Earth (Hawkwind)56
29Victims of the Modern Age (Star One)54
30On Phenomena and Existences (Rational Diet)53


31 - 50:

31After (Ihsahn)52
32In The Wake Of Evolution (Kaipa)52
33Petali Di Fuoco (La Maschera Di Cera)52
34X (Spock's Beard)52
35Rabbit (The Tea Club)50
36Seventh Story (Fromuz)50
37A-Live (Picchio Dal Pozzo)49
38The Final Frontier (Iron Maiden)48
39Random Acts Of Beauty (David Minasian)46
40Neogothic Progressive Toccatas (Three Monks)42
41The Threshingfloor (Wovenhand)42
42Behind the Black Veil (Shadow Theory)42
43Emotion & Commotion (Jeff Beck)41
44In case of loss (Areknamess)40
45Lunatic Soul II40
46Wanderer on the Edge of Time (Mekong Delta)40
47Mars Hollow 38
48The Big Red Spark (Tinyfish)38
49Hammer and Anvil (Pure Reason Revolution)38
50Adverse Camber (The Reasoning)37



51 - 100:

51Inner Firmaments Decay (All Over Everywhere)36
52Dan Berlund's Tornbruket35
53Road Salt One (POS)34
54Kollaps Tradixionales (Silver Mt. Zion)34
55The Seraphic Clockwork (Vanden Plas)34
56Planet Earth? (The Watch)34
57This is the Second Album of a Band Called Adebisi Shank34
58Someone Here Is Missing (Pineapple Thief)34
59The Best Of Anti-Depressive Delivery34
60Periphery34
61Caves (Uz Jsme Doma)32
62The Crown of Creation (Lucifer Was)30
63Stained Glass EP (KD)30
64Journey's End (The Enid)30
65Desert Call (Myrath)30
66Spring (Kaarna)30
67Wilderness Heart (Black Mountain)30
68Madame Zelle (Conqueror)30
69Unsettled (Dean Watson)30
70Bryologie (Rouge Ciel)28
71The Gathering Light (Karnataka)28
72Small Craft On A Milk Sea (Brian Eno)27
73Concealing Fate (Tesseract)26
74Twilight In The Crystal Cabinet (My Brother The Wind)26
75Guillaume Perret & The Electric Epic25
76Morse (Jean Louis)24
77The Way (Anima Mundi)24
78Light of a Vaster Dark (Faun Fables)23
79Anthropocentric (The Ocean)23
80Walk the Nile (Elephant9)22
81Moonberry (PikaPika Teart)22
82Nymf (Carptree)22
83Long Distance Trip (Samsara Blues Experiment)22
84The Tree That Bears The Equine Fruit (Anta)22
85Blackjazz (Shining)22
86Missa Atropos (Gazpacho)22
87Option Paralysis (The Dillinger Escape Plan)22
88Songs From a Solitary Home (Major Parkinson)20
89Ipsissimus (Moonchild Trio)20
90Children Of Another God (Nick Magnus)20
91Silence (Odyssice)20
92Grappling Hooks (North Atlantic Oscillation)20
93Snowballs (Kakaokamkami)20
94Le Bois Travaille, Même le Dimanche (Ange)20
95Continent & Western (Fond of Tigers)20
96Remember It (FramePictures)20
97Spiral Vendetta (Godsticks)20
98Charlestown (Guy Manning)20
99Myster Möbius20
100The great escape (Seventh Wonder)20


101 - 150:

101I, Vigilante (Crippled Black Phoenix)20
102Tempo (Banda do Sol)20
103World Is Round (Believe)20
104Royal Toast (Claudia Quintet)18
105Curse of the Red River (Barren Earth)18
106Roqueforte (Aranis)18
107Lady Of The Wild Things (Magdalena Solis)18
108Ragged Atlas (Cosa Brava)18
109Double Reign (Aries)18
110Bridges of Kukuriku (Quantum Factory)18
111Journey Through the Hidden Gardens (Disperse)18
112Orchestion (Pat Metheny)17
113To The One (john McLaughlin)17
114Castles, Wings, Stories, Dreams (Paolo Siani)16
115Interzone (John Zorn)16
116Salon des Refuses (In Lingua Mortua)16
117My Grandmother's Spacesuit (Fonderia)16
118Iridium (Empty Tremor)16
119The Grand Design (Day Six)16
120Initiate (Nels Cline Singers)16
121AD 2010 – La Buona Novella (PFM)16
122Harvest Aorta (Ephemeral Sun)16
123Ciencia de Los Inutiles (Omar Rodriguez Lopes)16
124Leader of the Starry Skies: A Tribute to Tim Smith, Songbook16
125Heavy Soul Sessions (Djam Karet) 14
126Crush Depth (Chrome Hoof)14
127Go Well Diamond Heart (Mostly Autumn)14
128Look To Winward (Fortunes Haze)14
129Hybrid Child (District 97)14
130Patagonian Rats (Tera Melos)14
131Saturnine (Dante)14
132Year Of The Black Rainbow (Coheed & Cambria)14
133City Of Angels (Ten Midnight)14
134Traces (Nine Stones Close)14
135T (Anti-Matter Poetry)14
136If (Glass Hammer)14
137Soup (Stick Men)14
138Cosmogenesis (Gru)14
139Autumn Sky (Blackmore's Night )14
140In Between (Eric Truffaz)13
141Talu (Phlox)13
142Barrel Fire (Gord Grdina)12
143Ghost Surveillance (Algernon)12
144Cosmology (Rolo Tomassi)12
145Diving Bell (Sanguine Hum)12
146Circles (Argos)12
14708.36.59 (Introvision)12
148Slip Into The Vortex (Oresund Space Collective)12
149Progress Has No Patience (The Dreaming Tree)12
150Challenging Gravity (Steve Unruth)12



151 - 214:

151Touch The Sky Vol. 1 (Supernal Endgame)12
152Far Skies Deep Time (Big Big Train)12
153The Fear is Excruciating, But Therein Lies the Answer (Red Sparrows)12
154The Collibro (Lis Er Stille)12
155Psy Valley Hill (Gurumaniax)12
156Uchi-Mani Deluxe (Uchihashi Kazuhisa & Mani Neumeier)10
157Krautrock From Hell (Electric Orange)10
158Panic Room (Satellite)10
159Infinity of Worlds (Lalle Larsson)10
160DramaRama (Agents Of Mercy)10
161The Bowls Project (Charming Hostess)10
162Ptah (Phaedra)10
163Cizana de los Amores (Omar Rodriguez Lopez)10
164Scenes From Hell (Sigh)10
165Positive Wave10
166Heliocentric (The Ocean)9
167Faust Is Last (Faust)8
168]]][[[ EP (Cloudkicker)8
169I Forgive You For All My Unhappiness (French TV)8
170Black Garden (K2)8
171Addicts: Black Meddle Part II (Nachtmystium)8
172Fever (Sleepy Sun)8
173We Were Exploding Anyway (65daysofstatic)8
174Ressentiment (East Of The Wall)8
175Time To Get Up (Beyond-O-Matic)8
176Ceiling Unlimited8
177This Is What Happens (The Reign Of Kindo)8
178Tuvalu8
179Earth Divided By Zero (Combat Astronomy)6
180Colster6
181Ipos (Masada)6
182Sister Kinderhook (Rasputina)6
183Omega (Asia)6
184Of Seismic Consequence (Yakuza)6
185Nature / Existence (Echoes)6
186Phlegethon (Kingcrow)6
187NDR Jazz Workshop (Soft Machine)6
188 Virstele Pamintului (Negura Bunget)6
189(Im)Patient (Madelgaire)6
190Thin Ice Crawling (Sould Enema)6
191Echo and Boo (Pavlov's Dog)6
192Ausserwelt (Year Of No Light)6
193Lüger4
194...And The Sky Fell EP (Pet Slimmers Of The Year)4
195High Street (A Helmet Of Gnats)4
196Where Stories End (Darkwater)4
197Sepulcros de Miel (Omar Rodriguez Lopez)4
198Modulator (Trey Gunn)4
199Determinism Of Morality (Rosetta)4
200Rise (Resistor)4
201The Myth Of Dying (The Psychedelic Ensemble)4
202Whose Dream? (Bun Chakeze)4
203Taming The Cannibals (Ehnahre)4
204Grey Swans (Lorenzo Monni)2
205The Stone (Medeski Martin & Wood)2
206Pennies in the Karma Jar (Salem Hill)2
207Scratch My Back (Peter Gabriel)2
208White Hills 2
209Sheperd's Dream (DAAU)2
210Melapesante (Syndone)2
211Crime Scene (Terje Rypdal)2
212Honor Thy Drummer- A Tribute to Mike Portnoy2
213We Became Your Family When You Died (Bullets In Madison)2
214Opportunistic Thieves Of Spring (A Forrest Of Stars)2



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