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Hanyou 
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 Posted: March 07 2011 at 21:23 |
I'm confused. The thread is called "Dream Theater." That's what my post corresponded to. Who's derailing it?
Derailment would be launching into conspiracy theories about the Kennedy assassination or talking about how many Pokemon I collected in the past 24 hours.
Anyway, since pursuing this line of discussion is seen as "derailment," I won't reply to rogerthat, much as I'd like to.
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JS19
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Posted: March 08 2011 at 02:38 |
 Hanyou wrote:
I'm confused. The thread is called "Dream Theater." That's what my post corresponded to. Who's derailing it?
Derailment would be launching into conspiracy theories about the Kennedy assassination or talking about how many Pokemon I collected in the past 24 hours.
Anyway, since pursuing this line of discussion is seen as "derailment," I won't reply to rogerthat, much as I'd like to. |
Well I think that the absolute definition of 'derailment' is to launch into a 3 post long defensive hypocritical rant ..... Eh rogerthat? 
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: March 08 2011 at 02:46 |
Dream Theater are amazing - i mostly listen to the early material these days
Though I watch the DVDs quite a lot.
Chaos In Motion and SCORE are quintessential.
I am saddened by the departure of Portnoy as a lot of fans are, but it is excitng knowing they are getting a new injection of blood with a fresh drummer, that could change their sound!
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progismylife
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Posted: March 08 2011 at 03:36 |
If Dream Theater start doing stuff like on James LaBrie's album..... 
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rogerthat
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Posted: March 08 2011 at 11:04 |
Hanyou wrote:
I'm confused. The thread is called "Dream Theater." That's what my post corresponded to. Who's derailing it?
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The thread is about the quirkiness of DT on account of both prog and metal elements in their music. It is NOT a general DT thread. Yes, I know that's related, but since my response to you was construed by JS19 as an opportune rant at DT, I have to then call your post a derailment too.
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rogerthat
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Posted: March 08 2011 at 11:09 |
JS19 wrote:
Hanyou wrote:
I'm confused. The thread is called "Dream Theater." That's what my post corresponded to. Who's derailing it?
Derailment would be launching into conspiracy theories about the Kennedy assassination or talking about how many Pokemon I collected in the past 24 hours.
Anyway, since pursuing this line of discussion is seen as "derailment," I won't reply to rogerthat, much as I'd like to. |
Well I think that the absolute definition of 'derailment' is to launch into a 3 post long defensive hypocritical rant ..... Eh rogerthat? |
Yeah, absolutely right, that describes your outburst directed at my first response to Hanyou to a t.  The very definition of hypocritical is to throw subjectivity out of the window and then call somebody else a snob, beautiful!
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JS19
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Posted: March 08 2011 at 16:35 |
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
Dream Theater are amazing - i mostly listen to the early material these days
Though I watch the DVDs quite a lot.
Chaos In Motion and SCORE are quintessential.
I am saddened by the departure of Portnoy as a lot of fans are, but it is excitng knowing they are getting a new injection of blood with a fresh drummer, that could change their sound! |
Well this is what we *were* talking about before 'someone' turned up. I think that a new drummer will not have enough creative input to really change the sound of DT, until a few albums down the line, assuming they get there. It would be nice for a change though, I'm getting a little bored of the standard DT album.
I love Score, but not chaos in motion, I find some of the performances better, and the extra tracks like Raise The Knife really make it....
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Garion81
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Posted: March 08 2011 at 17:38 |
All threads on this site about DT always start great then flare up into a white hot light then come crashing down into a small but very ugly pile of goo.
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"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?"
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 08 2011 at 17:48 |
Overall...Dream Theater is OK They have 3 really good albums: Awake, Train of Thought, and Octavarium 3 decent ones (some good songs, some not) I&W, Metropolis and Six Degrees 3 bad albums Falling Into Infinity, Systematic Chaos and Black Clouds I don't know the debut so can't make an opinion on it. So yeah, that pretty much is the definition of "OK" in my book They are talented and have good stuff though. So I LOL at both the Fanboys who worship them as gods (since they've made some really bad music) but also the people that hate them with the passion of a million suns.
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CCVP
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Posted: March 08 2011 at 18:29 |
You'd better not get funny there Brian boy. . . . 
Edited by CCVP - March 08 2011 at 18:29
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Andy Webb
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Posted: March 08 2011 at 18:50 |
progismylife wrote:
If Dream Theater start doing stuff like on James LaBrie's album..... |
His latest one, yea, I agree, was horrid. It was practically screamo. I'm guessing they'll start to lean more towards Petrucci and Rudess' solo material.
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TLM170
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Posted: March 08 2011 at 18:50 |
JJLehto wrote:
Overall...Dream Theater is OK
They have 3 really good albums:
Awake, Train of Thought, and Octavarium
3 decent ones (some good songs, some not)
I&W, Metropolis and Six Degrees
3 bad albums
Falling Into Infinity, Systematic Chaos and Black Clouds
I don't know the debut so can't make an opinion on it.
So yeah, that pretty much is the definition of "OK" in my book
They are talented and have good stuff though. So I LOL at both the Fanboys who worship them as gods (since they've made some really bad music) but also the people that hate them with the passion of a million suns.
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add image and words in the really good ones and I agree!
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: March 08 2011 at 20:00 |
Garion81 wrote:
All threads on this site about DT always start great then flare up into a white hot light then come crashing down into a small but very ugly pile of goo.
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 So true.
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darkshade
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Posted: March 08 2011 at 20:42 |
TLM170 wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
Overall...Dream Theater is OK
They have 3 really good albums:
Awake, Train of Thought, and Octavarium
3 decent ones (some good songs, some not)
I&W, Metropolis and Six Degrees
3 bad albums
Falling Into Infinity, Systematic Chaos and Black Clouds
I don't know the debut so can't make an opinion on it.
So yeah, that pretty much is the definition of "OK" in my book
They are talented and have good stuff though. So I LOL at both the Fanboys who worship them as gods (since they've made some really bad music) but also the people that hate them with the passion of a million suns.
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add image and words in the really good ones and I agree! |
also add Black Clouds to the decent ones (though i think it's better than that) and i agree as well
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: March 08 2011 at 21:32 |
darkshade wrote:
ugh, this is why i go to dreamtheaterforums.org when i want to talk about DT |
Yeah DTF is always nice. Freedom from the haters. 
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Catcher10
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Posted: March 08 2011 at 23:42 |
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darkshade
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Posted: March 09 2011 at 02:57 |
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right, i dont care for VDGG much, and when i see a VDGG thread, i dont go
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JS19
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Posted: March 09 2011 at 10:31 |
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Well I was obviously pretty naive in thinking anyone who didn't care for DT would just not bother posting on the thread. But apparently the hate is just too strong
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JS19
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Posted: March 09 2011 at 10:34 |
JJLehto wrote:
Overall...Dream Theater is OK
They have 3 really good albums:
Awake, Train of Thought, and Octavarium
3 decent ones (some good songs, some not)
I&W, Metropolis and Six Degrees
3 bad albums
Falling Into Infinity, Systematic Chaos and Black Clouds
I don't know the debut so can't make an opinion on it.
So yeah, that pretty much is the definition of "OK" in my book
They are talented and have good stuff though. So I LOL at both the Fanboys who worship them as gods (since they've made some really bad music) but also the people that hate them with the passion of a million suns.
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Swap Metropolis with Awake, I & W with Black Clouds, and Six Degrees with Octavarium, and I'll agree with that. I can't understand why some people think that DT fans 'worship' the band. I merely enjoy their music, it that so wrong that I should get completely slammed for it, it doesn't happen with any other band on the forum!
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: March 09 2011 at 12:47 |
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Dream Theater was my favourite band for quite a while. Probably second now, next to VdGG.
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