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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 13:51
I didn't know John was that good of a troll! Shocked 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 13:51
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

There are shoot-outs everywhere and not always by nazis. But pretty much always by criminals. 

As I mentioned before, lots of nazis in the US are into organized crime: identity theft, credit card fraud, drug dealing, gun running, murder and mayhem.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 13:52
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

I didn't know John was that good of a troll! Shocked 

How does telling people the truth about nazis constitute trolling?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 14:16
This should be renamed the A.D.D Politically Fuelled Arguments Thread 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 14:17
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

There are shoot-outs everywhere and not always by nazis. But pretty much always by criminals. 

As I mentioned before, lots of nazis in the US are into organized crime: identity theft, credit card fraud, drug dealing, gun running, murder and mayhem.
Exactly. What makes them criminals is not their stupid ideas. What makes them criminals is their actions. And probably because they have a criminal type of mind they like nazism. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 16:25
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:


Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

There are shoot-outs everywhere and not always by nazis. But pretty much always by criminals. 

As I mentioned before, lots of nazis in the US are into organized crime: identity theft, credit card fraud, drug dealing, gun running, murder and mayhem.
Exactly. What makes them criminals is not their stupid ideas. What makes them criminals is their actions. And probably because they have a criminal type of mind they like nazism. 


True Teo, ideas and even words are not crimes, we agree on this.

Overall, there is probably a difference in our life experiences on this matter. I've been a political activist since I was a teenager, I've dealt with this first hand, I have friends who have risked their lives doing undercover ciminal investigations, there is a real danger there, but you can't know it until you go there.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 18:07
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I thought this thread would have died when it shifted to German cuisine. 


Wait did I miss this?
Damn it!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 18:29
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I thought this thread would have died when it shifted to German cuisine. 


Wait did I miss this?
Damn it!

Actually that was probably what kept it alive.
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 19:29
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

He's upset that someone got arrested for making a nazi gesture, hmmm, what kind of person would be upset over this.   


I think I meant "why do your posts look like someone separated a Moshkito post and scattered it across the countryside?"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 19:46
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

We have plenty of nazis in the US, they go by other names also like, kkk, aryan brotherhood, skinheads etc and they are very active.
There was a very recent shoot-out in west Memphis where two cowardly nazis ambushed a cop just doing his job. They didn't last long, needless to say the cops didn't bother to arrest them, due process comes quickly around here.


Does this above post work OK for you Mr Triceratopsoil. Its pretty simple and too the point, no confusing sarcasm or irony.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 19:53
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

We have plenty of nazis in the US, they go by other names also like, kkk, aryan brotherhood, skinheads etc and they are very active.
There was a very recent shoot-out in west Memphis where two cowardly nazis ambushed a cop just doing his job. They didn't last long, needless to say the cops didn't bother to arrest them, due process comes quickly around here.


Does this above post work OK for you Mr Triceratopsoil. Its pretty simple and too the point, no confusing sarcasm or irony.


Your attempts at sarcasm and irony aren't confusing.  My comparison stems from your diction and syntax.

Not to mention having four posts in a row saying practically the same thing via sentence fragments.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 19:53
Nazis didn't attack people (whether they were Police or not) in the street though, John.  The Sturm Abteilung did for a bit in the 1930s but they supposedly had good reason to.  However, Hitler didn't like their thuggery and had Ernst Rohm and others shot.  Then he formed the SS who even though not nice people by any means, were supposedly not as brutal and thuggish.

So lumping them in with the KKK, Skinheads and Aryan Brotherhood isn't exactly fair, even if all of these were somewhat influenced by them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 20:05
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Nazis didn't attack people (whether they were Police or not) in the street though, John.  The Sturm Abteilung did for a bit in the 1930s but they supposedly had good reason to.  However, Hitler didn't like their thuggery and had Ernst Rohm and others shot.  Then he formed the SS who even though not nice people by any means, were supposedly not as brutal and thuggish.So lumping them in with the KKK, Skinheads and Aryan Brotherhood isn't exactly fair, even if all of these were somewhat influenced by them.


Europeans are a lot better at exact definitions than Americans, I see it in musicology all the time. When Americans use terms, even about themselves, it is often very sloppy and inexact.

In US culture, thugs who are racists can come under many different names and may have nothing to do with exact WW II German nazis, but the outcome and criminal activities are similar even though the group names may be different.

There is often a lot of cross influence from various racist cultures in the US, for example the kkk guy who also collects nazi memorabilia, the two groups (kkk and/or neo-nazi) have more in common than they have difference.

Its possible these days that the most defining group like this in the US today is the arayan brotherhood, but the similarities to those who might also call themselves neo-nazis, kkk or skinheads are very similar.

Most Americans that I know that are anti-racist are apt to freely exchange terms like neo-nazi, skin head etc.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 20:08
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:



Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

We have plenty of nazis in the US, they go by other names also like, kkk, aryan brotherhood, skinheads etc and they are very active.
There was a very recent shoot-out in west Memphis where two cowardly nazis ambushed a cop just doing his job. They didn't last long, needless to say the cops didn't bother to arrest them, due process comes quickly around here.


Does this above post work OK for you Mr Triceratopsoil. Its pretty simple and too the point, no confusing sarcasm or irony.
Your attempts at sarcasm and irony aren't confusing.  My comparison stems from your diction and syntax.Not to mention having four posts in a row saying practically the same thing via sentence fragments.


OK, guilty as charged, the internet seems to encourage sloppy grammar, I will try to be more scholarly since this is an important subject, and I am not being sarcastic either.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2011 at 09:07
^ Easy Money seems correct in his assessment, probably if a member of the kkk was put in to prison his allegiance would fall to the aryan brotherhood since the prison authorities  have enough control of the prisons to deny the kkk member an opportunity to wear his halloween costume.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2011 at 09:52
I think it's time for another German aeronautical wonder from World War Two.

This beaut  is the Heinkel He 219 Eagle Owl. Not only the first purpose built night fighter but the first aircraft to be equipped with ejection seats. It was also equipped with an advanced high resolution airborne intercept radar that enabled it to track multiple targets once guided into allied bomber streams by ground controllers. Other innovations included armour protection for the two man crew and a tricycle landing gear. It was nonetheless difficult to manafacture due to it's complexity and encountered problems with it's Daimler Benz engines that precluded it from being produced in signifigant numbers ( less than 300 ). However, when it did manage to enter the fray it proved to be a deadly proposition with it's 30 mm & 20 MM cannons. Occasionally it was outfitted with  an upward firing "Schrage Musik " istallation that allowed the Germans to fire upward out of the bombers line of sight.

Yet another German design that was decades ahead of it's time. Some of the innovations that I've mentioned  were incorporated into modern warplanes such as the F-14 Tomcat  and A-10 Thunderbolt. Only one remains in the hands of the Smithsonian Institute in the US where only the fuselage is on public display.





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2011 at 10:36
 
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Nazis didn't attack people (whether they were Police or not) in the street though, John.  The Sturm Abteilung did for a bit in the 1930s but they supposedly had good reason to.  However, Hitler didn't like their thuggery and had Ernst Rohm and others shot.  Then he formed the SS who even though not nice people by any means, were supposedly not as brutal and thuggish.So lumping them in with the KKK, Skinheads and Aryan Brotherhood isn't exactly fair, even if all of these were somewhat influenced by them.


This is a joke right?

"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2011 at 10:56
Why is there so much fascination with things Nazi?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2011 at 11:10
Why are you so fascinated with airplanes?
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2011 at 11:12
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

 
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Nazis didn't attack people (whether they were Police or not) in the street though, John.  The Sturm Abteilung did for a bit in the 1930s but they supposedly had good reason to.  However, Hitler didn't like their thuggery and had Ernst Rohm and others shot.  Then he formed the SS who even though not nice people by any means, were supposedly not as brutal and thuggish.So lumping them in with the KKK, Skinheads and Aryan Brotherhood isn't exactly fair, even if all of these were somewhat influenced by them.


This is a joke right?



No.
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