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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 17:37
You know Loek, srsly now, the dissonance so characteristic of music written since the second half of the XX c. is nothing but a way to masque the player's lack of ability or intimacy with its instrument. No bullsh*t. Classical composers were particularly enthusiastic in defending that because it was very true in the beginings if atonal, dodecaphonic music and experimental classical.

Let this sink in for a second there.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 17:37
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by The Sleepwalker The Sleepwalker wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by The Sleepwalker The Sleepwalker wrote:

Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by The Sleepwalker The Sleepwalker wrote:

Originally posted by Polo Polo wrote:

Who's that chick on your profile pic, Sleepwalker?


Nice. That's quite a chick to have a fetish with.


Do you have sexual atraction for people that can't play the guitar?

Jeez, I'd better never come near you braw. . . .
At least there is emotion in her music. DT fan rite?


LOL, that's getting a bit old, I bet Kayo doesn't even mind anymore. LOL And why so defensive Loek? My first fascination with the guitar as a sexual organ happened a decade ago with The Song Remains The Same (the film). Wink

Sorry, couldn't help making that comment, despite it being overdone. 
And are you implying that you are sexually attracted to Jimmy Page? ShockedTongue




No, I'm more into Plant. Tongue But it was fascinating to see the guitar like an extension of his ****. His body movement was very stimulating for the imagination in this regard. LOL And yeah, the guitar in the arms of a chick is much better. This is like doing stuff to your **** vs. a hot chick doing stuff to your ****. Wink
Nicely worded. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 17:38
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

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I have a guitar.


Will travel?
 
Of course.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 17:38
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

You know, srsly now, the dissonance so characteristic of music written since the second half of the XX c. is nothing but a way to masque the player's lack of ability or intimacy with its instrument. No bullsh*t. Classical composers were particularly enthusiastic in defending that because it was very true in the beginings if atonal, dodecaphonic music and experimental classical.

Let this sink in for a second there.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 17:40
Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

I have a guitar.


Will travel?
 
Of course.


Be careful with than man wanting to make a deal with you, at the crossroad.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 17:41
Why did T make Henry cry?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 17:43
Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

You know, srsly now, the dissonance so characteristic of music written since the second half of the XX c. is nothing but a way to masque the player's lack of ability or intimacy with its instrument. No bullsh*t. Classical composers were particularly enthusiastic in defending that because it was very true in the beginings if atonal, dodecaphonic music and experimental classical.

Let this sink in for a second there.
 
No
 
U mad?


No, I am not. That is the very unadulterated truth. Many composers on Brasil and abroad (Europe mainly) destroyed their original handwritten scores because they believe that music had either degradeted to a point beyond return and that those things needed to be destroyed or that those things would not survive outside the ranks of pseudo-intellectuals who could not understand music and actual educated and studied people who could understand the music purely on its technicality.

My mother did her Masters thesis on Music on this theme (contemporary music), so I have a huge source of information / material on that.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 17:44
I'm only trolling bro,
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 17:44
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

You know Loek, srsly now, the dissonance so characteristic of music written since the second half of the XX c. is nothing but a way to masque the player's lack of ability or intimacy with its instrument. No bullsh*t. Classical composers were particularly enthusiastic in defending that because it was very true in the beginings if atonal, dodecaphonic music and experimental classical.

Let this sink in for a second there.


I have no clue about modernist music, but this idea is a very well spread cliche in the world of the visual arts. Actually, most of the abstract painters and sculptors were amazing technicians, well versed with the formal language of their art. Simplicity was in their case the end of an evolution that implied a lot of thought and practice with form.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 17:45
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Why did T make Henry cry?


because he said the old shred title (shriendship is magic) was lame. Being the fruitcake that he is, Henners cried his heart out.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 17:49
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Why did T make Henry cry?


because he said the old shred title (shriendship is magic) was lame. Being the fruitcake that he is, Henners cried his heart out.


Yeah, I can visualize that. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 17:49
I was actually thinking of listening to Team Dreater. :(
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 17:50
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

You know Loek, srsly now, the dissonance so characteristic of music written since the second half of the XX c. is nothing but a way to masque the player's lack of ability or intimacy with its instrument. No bullsh*t. Classical composers were particularly enthusiastic in defending that because it was very true in the beginings if atonal, dodecaphonic music and experimental classical.

Let this sink in for a second there.
Meh, lack of ability? Like I said, her guitar playing isn't fantastic, but to make alt rock it doesn't have to be. It's good enough this way, and has the rawness that gives her music a sharp edge and makes me enjoy it so much. Of course classical music is a different thing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 18:01
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

You know Loek, srsly now, the dissonance so characteristic of music written since the second half of the XX c. is nothing but a way to masque the player's lack of ability or intimacy with its instrument. No bullsh*t. Classical composers were particularly enthusiastic in defending that because it was very true in the beginings if atonal, dodecaphonic music and experimental classical.

Let this sink in for a second there.


I have no clue about modernist music, but this idea is a very well spread cliche in the world of the visual arts. Actually, most of the abstract painters and sculptors were amazing technicians, well versed with the formal language of their art. Simplicity was in their case the end of an evolution that implied a lot of thought and practice with form.


That's highly debatable Alex. Let's take Picasso for example. Wile it is well known that during the begining of his career he was actually a pretty decent painter (pink & blue periods) he was far from being anything extraordinaire. Hell, Hitler painted better than him and he wasn't a master artist (but let's leave that for da nazi thread, lol).

In music, wile that is true for the most considerable part of the first wave of composers, this rapidly changed. BR composer Radamés Gnatalli, when destroying his experimental pieces (atonal, etc), one of the reasons for such was that "most of the composers [nowadays] is using this as a way to hide their lack of talent, inspiration and overall lazyness [when writing music]". Things deteriorated really really quick. This is one of the reasons why I am so carefull when listening to that supposedly "avant-garde" stuff.

Originally posted by The Sleepwalker The Sleepwalker wrote:

Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

You know Loek, srsly now, the dissonance so characteristic of music written since the second half of the XX c. is nothing but a way to masque the player's lack of ability or intimacy with its instrument. No bullsh*t. Classical composers were particularly enthusiastic in defending that because it was very true in the beginings if atonal, dodecaphonic music and experimental classical.

Let this sink in for a second there.
Meh, lack of ability? Like I said, her guitar playing isn't fantastic, but to make alt rock it doesn't have to be. It's good enough this way, and has the rawness that gives her music a sharp edge and makes me enjoy it so much. Of course classical music is a different thing.


No, it is not. People that do that on popular music basically borrow from the same principle. They cannot be separated on that specific matter.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 18:06
hai gaiz

I was closer to hipsterdom today then I've ever been.

waiting on line for chipotle, scraggaly hair, decently grown beard (not mountain though) and listening to Isis.

Good thing I don't wear tight jeans or else I was done...

Oh Caio was listening to Sepultura while walking Headbanger
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 18:07
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

hai gaiz

I was closer to hipsterdom today then I've ever been.

waiting on line for chipotle, scraggaly hair, decently grown beard (not mountain though) and listening to Isis.

Good thing I don't wear tight jeans or else I was done...

Oh Caio was listening to Sepultura while walking Headbanger


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Which album? I bet it was Bestial Devastation + Morbid Visions. Macumba-inspired lyrics FTW! Cool
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 18:09
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

hai gaiz

I was closer to hipsterdom today then I've ever been.

waiting on line for chipotle, scraggaly hair, decently grown beard (not mountain though) and listening to Isis.

Good thing I don't wear tight jeans or else I was done...

Oh Caio was listening to Sepultura while walking Headbanger


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Which album? I bet it was Bestial Devastation + Morbid Visions. Macumba-inspired lyrics FTW! Cool


Hehe
those albums are only for special occasions!

It was Beneath the Remains and Arise
Their two masterpieces!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 18:13
Sepultura kicked major f**king ass when they opened for Metallica in São Paulo last year.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 18:13
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

 

That's highly debatable Alex. Let's take Picasso for example. Wile it is well known that during the begining of his career he was actually a pretty decent painter (pink & blue periods) he was far from being anything extraordinaire. Hell, Hitler painted better than him and he wasn't a master artist (but let's leave that for da nazi thread, lol).



WTF. You definitely don't know Picasso beyond his well-known works.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 18:15
They are pretty f**kkin awesome.

Lost their way a bit after Max left but their last 2 albums are actually pretty good, especially Dante XXI.
Wish more people would try it, good stuff.

And their classic stuff is just killer.

Also Caio remember when I said Rubens would the 2011 F1 champion? He still has a ride for this season!
My prediction is coming true!!! He's gunna win all 19 races, and retire as uber champ. Cool
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