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Triceratopsoil 
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 Posted: March 01 2011 at 23:01 |
 Easy Money wrote:
Speaking of free speech, I'm beginning to wonder if snowdog is a nazi sympathizer. |
...what?
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 23:02 |
JJLehto wrote:
What does it matter? That's not the point.
Freedom of Speech is universal.
And very good!
"It seems to me that the only people who seek protection under such so-called 'rights' are those who know full well that their utterances or actions are completely indefensible."
To me that sounds like you are saying people in those cases are using rights as an excuse, and you turned it around to make me look bad. You'd be a good politician! 
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Freedom of speech is not "universal". You can't, for instance, yell "fire" in a theater or "I've got a bomb" in an airplane; neither can you threaten the life of the president. Defamation, incitement to crime, verbal sexual harrassment in the work place -- these are all not free speech. Cyberbullying is also not covered under free speech in some states.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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The T
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 23:04 |
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 23:06 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
What does it matter? That's not the point.
Freedom of Speech is universal.
And very good!
"It seems to me that the only people who seek protection under such so-called 'rights' are those who know full well that their utterances or actions are completely indefensible."
To me that sounds like you are saying people in those cases are using rights as an excuse, and you turned it around to make me look bad. You'd be a good politician!
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Freedom of speech is not "universal". You can't, for instance, yell "fire" in a theater or "I've got a bomb" in an airplane; neither can you threaten the life of the president. Defamation, incitement to crime, verbal sexual harrassment in the work place -- these are all not free speech. Cyberbullying is also not covered under free speech in some states. |
Yes, I know. I actually said that very thing earlier. See Timothy Leary! I told you someone was going to say it anyway.... It's universal that is should be free for everyone, as I said a few pages back there are cases where it's been determined that freedom of speech is not guaranteed. Read the pages before commenting!
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Easy Money
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 23:08 |
Triceratopsoil wrote:
Easy Money wrote:
Speaking of free speech, I'm beginning to wonder if snowdog is a nazi sympathizer. |
...what? |
I didn't accuse anyone of anything, just wondering you know.
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Easy Money
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 23:09 |
He's upset that someone got arrested for making a nazi gesture, hmmm, what kind of person would be upset over this. 
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thellama73
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 23:10 |
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A good person!
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Easy Money
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 23:14 |
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^ possibly, but wouldn't a nazi sympathizer be upset also.
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thellama73
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 23:17 |
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^No because Nazis don't have emotions.
Nice try, but I'm onto your trick questions.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 23:18 |
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Thread of the year so far here!
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 23:18 |
JJLehto wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
What does it matter? That's not the point.
Freedom of Speech is universal.
And very good!
"It seems to me that the only people who seek protection under such so-called 'rights' are those who know full well that their utterances or actions are completely indefensible."
To me that sounds like you are saying people in those cases are using rights as an excuse, and you turned it around to make me look bad. You'd be a good politician!
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Freedom of speech is not "universal". You can't, for instance, yell "fire" in a theater or "I've got a bomb" in an airplane; neither can you threaten the life of the president. Defamation, incitement to crime, verbal sexual harrassment in the work place -- these are all not free speech. Cyberbullying is also not covered under free speech in some states. |
Yes, I know. I actually said that very thing earlier.
See Timothy Leary!
I told you someone was going to say it anyway....
It's universal that is should be free for everyone, as I said a few pages back there are cases where it's been determined that freedom of speech is not guaranteed.
Read the pages before commenting!
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I wasn't replying to a comment made several pages ago, I was commenting about what you said just now. Rather than demand someone backtrack for no reason, how about making your posts clearer? Making the statement "freedom of speech is universal" is neither true when referring to the world, nor is it true in a U.S. constitutional sense.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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Easy Money
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 23:18 |
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OK then, How do you tell the difference between a nazi sympathizer and a nice person.
Edited by Easy Money - March 01 2011 at 23:19
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Easy Money
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 23:23 |
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Answer:
a nice person would have called this thread something like 'freedom of speech at stake'
while the other would have called it 'Nazi Pride' or 'Nazi Salute' or something like that.
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 23:31 |
Oi, Snow Dog, an Admin, somebody...just change the name of the damn thread already! Also sup Easy? Unusual activity in here, are you up to something? Monitoring and controlling the thread without actually doing so? Like some type of omnipresent thought police? 
Edited by JJLehto - March 01 2011 at 23:33
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Man With Hat
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 23:32 |
Easy Money wrote:
OK then, How do you tell the difference between a nazi sympathizer and a nice person. |
If they weigh the same as a duck, they are made of wood, and therefore a nazi sympathizer!
Easy. 
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 23:36 |
Man With Hat wrote:
Easy Money wrote:
OK then, How do you tell the difference between a nazi sympathizer and a nice person. |
If they weigh the same as a duck, they are made of wood, and therefore a nazi sympathizer!
Easy. |
That would mean...a witch... what weighs the same as a duck and is made of wood...is also a nazi sympathizer? Would that be a laden or unladen nazi sympathizer? And can they say the word "it"?
Edited by The Dark Elf - March 01 2011 at 23:37
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
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Easy Money
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 23:37 |
JJLehto wrote:
Oi, Snow Dog, an Admin, somebody...just change the name of the damn thread already! Also sup Easy? Unusual activity in here, are you up to something?Monitoring and controlling the thread without actually doing so?Like some type of omnipresent thought police?
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I'm not an admins or monitor lizard anymore, I'm a free man and I don't like nazis.
I'm exercising my free speech rights, Right On!
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 23:40 |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 23:43 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
Freedom of speech is not "universal". You can't, for instance, yell "fire" in a theater or "I've got a bomb" in an airplane;
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You can yell "there are motherf**king snakes" on an airplane if you are an actor on screen in a movie. In fact you can yell those other things under those same circumstances. Perhaps you've never heard of The Towering Inferno or Airport???
Edited by Slartibartfast - March 01 2011 at 23:45
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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thellama73
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Posted: March 02 2011 at 00:11 |
Easy Money wrote:
OK then, How do you tell the difference between a nazi sympathizer and a nice person. |
There are a number of ways. The one I like (because it's easy to remember) is that a nice person doesn't sympathize with Nazis, whereas a Nazi sympathizer does.
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