Dream Theater

JS19 wrote: Catcher10 wrote: I am one who believes Portnoy leaving DT is not a good thing...long term. I think they eventually will loose a lot of the creativity that got them where they are. Hopefully Myung will keep them in check......I know most do not like MP but I do like him, I certainly do not care for his singing, that needs to disappear......he needs to stick to the "sticks" and writing. I would like to see more Transatlantic, LTE and hopefully some OSI if he will do that......but this Beatles cover band stuff he is doing...mehhh....I just hope he does not try and record any of that and spend time touring on that.   My hope is within 2-3 yrs they will get back together and create some great stuff again before they all call it quits... In the meantime, Myung can right everything... Whoever thought it was a good idea to stop him writing was a moron.

I actually don't think the new drummer is going to have a huge impact on Dream Theater's sound at first. A couple more albums, maybe, but as to the recording of at least the next album, whoever it is is going to be more absorbed into assimilating into the band to be focused on songwriting. I think his role for the upcoming album is going to be little more than writing drum parts to work with something Petrucci's written. As much as I would like to see Myung start writing more of the band's stuff, the speed with which he produces stuff will still only give time for perhaps one Myung track per album. And as to LaBrie bringing the core influence to Dream Theater that was on Static Impulse - LaBrie knows that music isn't DT's style. He has his whole solo project going so he can make music that wouldn't fit with Dream Theater's sound. I definitely think this will be a Petrucci dominated record.

JS19 wrote: ... From the start, they have been both Metal and prog, symbolised almost, by the appearance of Mike Portnoy. A long haired, troglodytic, metalhead, but so dedicated to prog, he has a King Crimson tattoo. I think that up until now, Dream Theater have been incredibly dedicated to prog and to metal, whereas most bands have 'splashings of this', and a 'bit of that'. I also believe that if one of these was removed, and the band could focus solely on one of the two, they would astound. ...

progismylife wrote: I read somewhere (don't ask me where I don't remember) that Myung stopped writing because his ideas needed worked on and weren't fully compatible with the music by the time he brought it to the other members so he stopped writing.

I read that too, but I guess it has to be with some sort of Lennon-McCarthy syndrome with him and Petrucci. At least the last album reflects that for me, I identified that they wanted more protagonism, Porntoy tried to sing/chorus in almost every song and he do it terrible. And Petrucci went with the Count of Tuscany which is an extraordinary song, but with pathetic lyrics. Myung is credited for the lyrics in Learning to Live and I think are really good, better than all the last times lyrics by the other two. And in the musical aspect I think they also tend to hold most of the composition, which for some bands may be good way to work (Wilson in Porcupine Tree for example), but it's clear that for DT they just keeping doing music with the same formula which IMHO is very predictable now.

I think the leave of Portnoy will help both parts to create some fresh music. At least if they stop trying to get the full attention... I think some fresh and good records may come up.

moshkito wrote: JS19 wrote: ... From the start, they have been both Metal and prog, symbolised almost, by the appearance of Mike Portnoy. A long haired, troglodytic, metalhead, but so dedicated to prog, he has a King Crimson tattoo. I think that up until now, Dream Theater have been incredibly dedicated to prog and to metal, whereas most bands have 'splashings of this', and a 'bit of that'. I also believe that if one of these was removed, and the band could focus solely on one of the two, they would astound. ...     I totally disagree. Mike is not that great a drummer. He does have an excellent presence on stage and he plays up to the audience and has fun, which the other 4 are not willing/able to do like he does, and that makes Mike appear to be much better, and he is NOT ... he simply is the better showman ... and one of these days, you might stop and see how reliant he is on his snare drum, to the point that I would like to break it over his head and then tell him ... now drum! ... and he probably can't! He's a good, and fun, time keeper ... and a terribly over rated "drummer", in a band that put together a lot of music that was far more challenging to play, than his drumming gave it credit for, or could improve! Even in transitional parts, you get ... standard drumming ... that you would teach to your son at 12 ... not to a prime musician! ...   ... With the departure of Mr Portnoy, I wondered where they would go from here. It's almost certain that they won't abandon one of the two completely, but if they maybe just toned down the metal side of it, they may find themselves rather better received on this here website. ...   I sincerely hope they come back better than ever and make Mike's exit show ... that the band has a lot more to offer than just a glorified clown that thinks he is a good drummer and has all the kiddies convinced, because he looks cool and has fun, and YOU are paying for it! ... sorry, bro ... just another Ozzie in my book ... a good entertainer, not necessarily musician!

Octavarium may be a good next track to hear, it's my favourite DT song, and I guess it's got some similarities to 6DoIT.

^^^ excellent! dont forget disc 1

as for the next album, i feel there will be an almost equal mix of metal and prog, but with tons of great melodies. Rudess will have a great amount of influence on the new album as well i think. The album will open up with blazing drums with insane bass on top. Then everyone else enters

Portnoy has just become an utter self involved ass. He says he left DT because they wouldn't go on Hiatus for him to take a break. Well why should they? He also said in his time with DT he hasn't had a chance to rest. Again utter rubbish because DT took plenty of breaks since 2000 but Mike Portnoy spent them forming distinctly average Beatles and Rush tribute bands. 

topographicbroadways wrote: Portnoy has just become an utter self involved ass. He says he left DT because they wouldn't go on Hiatus for him to take a break. Well why should they? He also said in his time with DT he hasn't had a chance to rest. Again utter rubbish because DT took plenty of breaks since 2000 but Mike Portnoy spent them forming distinctly average Beatles and Rush tribute bands.  And the worst part of him is that he spent the entire Scenes From a Memory tour pissing about on stage because he didn't like doing the same setlist every night, and he got away with it because he convinced the paying audience it was a funny thing to do. So heres a little tip, when mister Portnoy gets his head out of his ass long enough to release a solo album, nobody buy it. Just download it illegally so you don't give this selfish moron anymore of your hard earned money. And well done to DT for not letting him back in.

Edited by AllP0werToSlaves - March 01 2011 at 10:18