Ecologic urgency : Air traffic excess

I love how you keep posting these pictures as if they are supposed to shock and horrify us. 
A dead bee in the snow? Oh my god, you must be right!
I think the vapor trails are rather pretty.

This is quite... Absurd. Now we want a government aganecy to regulate where when how and why we should fly?

Let companies come up with a fix. Let's not go back the the 19th century, please? (at least in communication issues... i can accept it in music )

The T wrote: This is quite... Absurd. Now we want a government aganecy to regulate where when how and why we should fly? Let companies come up with a fix.       Let's not go back the the 19th century, please? (at least in communication issues... i can accept it in music )

"Get real"? That's what I've been trying the entire thread

At what point does polluting the environment become criminal.......if I vandalized your property it would be a criminal offense, accountability and a double standard, corporations are above the law in many cases.

The only sensible thing is go back to mud huts and pooping on the side of dirt roads.

I'm not sure why this is the smart thing to do. "Really important things" is a pretty subjective judgment to make. >>> reserving oil reserves for really essential things: how about space-minded programs, boat & ship uses (in terms of amount of merchandise to pollution rates boats are really cool, force fluvial transport wherever possible instead of truck transport (I mean screw the just-in-time delivery system >>> they increase pollution by tenfolds) and stop people from flying across the planet for holidays and dumb/useless business trips >>> how's that for a start???

Yes the boat is the less polluting mean of transport along with the train which should be imposed by states over plane for inner flights.




But assuming some government or governmental conglomerate did make such a judgment, all it would do is cripple the economy. >>> how is that a bad thing???   .... Our economical system (f**ked up right from the start) is bound to disaster soon or later (the sooner, the better for the planet if you ask me)

I’d add that the decreasing of economy is a fatality anyway, as our economies are based on oil and nothing is done to anticipate the end of oil. BTW all datas regarding oil stock are hidden, each one will keep its secret stash until the last drop. We do nothing to prepare the transition.



A plane ticket would cost triple or more what it does now (since airlines would otherwise lose a significant portion of their revenue). The cost of goods will increase beyond what people can pay. >>> no it won't, because the goods will not come from across the planet anymore... it'll (the consumer good) be made locally (therefore re-create jobs escaped to China) and won't pollute zillions of CO2 just to get to the supermarkets near you.


Exactly. Anyway all that is not tenable, even on medium term. So why wait to be in the wall to react ? We’re not sure at all that plants, seaweeds (that produce a good part of the oxygen and recycle CO2 ) and pollinators insects will stand the modification of quantity and quality sunlight caused by a doubly and/or treby of the current traffic’s volume !
       

Edited by oliverstoned - February 28 2011 at 02:42

oliverstoned wrote:

This is rather beautiful.

JJLehto wrote: thellama73 wrote: I love how you keep posting these pictures as if they are supposed to shock and horrify us. A dead bee in the snow? Oh my god, you must be right!I think the vapor trails are rather pretty. They are. And agree, those pictures are not exactly the best for conveying a message. Even the first one in this thread.I I can only imagine how many contrails are over my town...And how bad are they?There's much better (as in saddening) pictures you can find to scare us man!Those sad polar bears on the small ice block always do it

If you care much about far away polar bears than your everyday sky...it probably means that you never watch the sky, maybe you spent too much time in front of a screen to realize what really happens.
But know that the melting of ice is GREATLY increased by air traffic excess as the excess moisture make the ice melt much faster then a dryer air...

Have a look here if you want polar bears:


http://www.planestupid.com/polarbears

Here's my two cents on the subject: