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Posted: February 03 2011 at 09:05
irrelevant wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
irrelevant wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
From all this latest polls I have found that a lot of people believe that Bjork or Steely Dan are Prog but Pink Floiyd not
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Steely Dan are just as prog as Pink Floyd.
Agreed. For me, Steely Dan is better progrock than Pink Floyd, but SD never recorded so commercial progrock as DSTOM and WYWH albums are, and of course The Wall.
They're two entirely different bands though (and both were commercially successful). Pink Floyd often crated long and drawn out spacey-rock and Steely Dan crafted (quite intricate) song based jazz pop/rock.
Of course that they are different bands. So different that I like Steely Dan much more than Pink Floyd, and I think that Steely Dan' music is better, regarding entire catalogue by both.
I disagree that Steely Dan recorded so commercial albums as DSTOM, WYWH and The Wall. Those Pink Floyd albums were sold in so much copies than ANY other progrock band, be that "spacey - rock" or "jazz pop/rock", were sold entire catalogue.
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 07:59
Svetonio wrote:
irrelevant wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
From all this latest polls I have found that a lot of people believe that Bjork or Steely Dan are Prog but Pink Floiyd not
Awesome
Iván
Steely Dan are just as prog as Pink Floyd.
Agreed. For me, Steely Dan is better progrock than Pink Floyd, but SD never recorded so commercial progrock as DSTOM and WYWH albums are, and of course The Wall.
They're two entirely different bands though (and both were commercially successful). Pink Floyd often crated long and drawn out spacey-rock and Steely Dan crafted (quite intricate) song based jazz pop/rock.
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 06:58
irrelevant wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
From all this latest polls I have found that a lot of people believe that Bjork or Steely Dan are Prog but Pink Floiyd not
Awesome
Iván
Steely Dan are just as prog as Pink Floyd.
Agreed. For me, Steely Dan is better progrock than Pink Floyd, but SD never recorded so commercial progrock as DSTOM and WYWH albums are, and of course The Wall.
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 06:34
I don't like The Wall, but for me this album is progrock. No question about it. I think that album is nothing special, but I think the same about DSOTM, and WYWH. Just my opinion. I love Animals, though.
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Posted: February 02 2011 at 21:17
I always like to say - we don't need no education, well how about some grammar lessons? When you say we don't need no education you are really employing a double negative and oh never mind.
Edited by Slartibartfast - February 02 2011 at 21:18
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted: February 02 2011 at 20:41
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Many of Pink Floyd's albums are clearly prog like DSOTM or Animals. The Wall never really appealed to me like Pink Floyd's other great albums and I think it's because it is not very progressive.
I'll be honest with you ... when definitions tell the world that you are screwed up and you don't know anything, and no one can do anything ... I'm not sure I would not say ... too bad for you ... I wrote the piece, got famous off it and have the millions to show for it, and I don't care if you call it prog, bullsh*t or anything else you want ...
It's the craziest thing ...
Don't start telling me that you only like "progressive" music, because I am not sure you can define it and show it with examples. The Wall might not be "progressive" if you consider just a bunch of songs, but everything else about it, is more progressive than the majority of things that have ever been done ... and that is the reason why it is remembered, and appreciated, and if you decide you don't like it because it ain't progressive enough for your knickers ... too bad!
Can you see the fault with that question now? ... how the fudge would you feel if you had composed that massive piece of music, and then some kid comes up and tells you some words that ... have nothing to do with music, and certainly not anything to do with your own work?
Yeah ... you would flip the kid, too! And I would say on top of it ... I don't need your nickels!
It's not "we don't need no education ... we don't need no thought control ... " ... it's "we don't need your opinions ... we don't need no oppresive ideas ... " ... that are all about ... I can't do something! I can't think of anything more ... unjust ... and a bigger crime ... than say ... I don't like that man's music because he ain't black ... or green ... or blue ... or progressive!
Edited by moshkito - February 02 2011 at 20:43
Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
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