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    Posted: February 01 2011 at 13:21
I've recently become a huge fan of Cardiacs, and I know that they have quite a loyal following.  I believe they deserve more appreciation here on the PA forums. They are truly an extraordinary band.

Let's discuss anything you want to involving Cardiacs, as well as the genius that is Tim Smith.

What are your favorite Cardiacs albums? Have you seen any of their shows? Have any rare memorabilia? Anything else you'd like to discuss about Cardiacs, let's do it here. Wink




Get well soon, Tim!


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In principle I like Cardiacs, but the they  often have a grating "wall of noise" kinda sound that gives me listeners fatigue. I guess I am too old.. Even the most Hard Core RIO/Avant bands usually mellows out a bit between the hard parts, but not Cardiacs...





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Originally posted by Rottenhat Rottenhat wrote:

In principle I like Cardiacs, but the often have a grating wall of noise kinda sound to them that gives me listeners fatigue. I guess I am too old.. Even the most Hard Core RIO/Avant bands usually mellows out a bit between the hard parts, but not Cardiacs...




Guess so. Tongue

I guess I sort of felt the same way the first few times I listened to them, but that shortly left.
    
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The Cardiacs family (including band themselves, Knifeworld, Sea Nymphs, Spratley's Japs, etc) are right up there with the Yoshida bands and Can and such for me.  Tim is a very special man, able to bring us such beautiful music. 

Favorite albums?  Right now, A Little Man and a House and the Whole World Window and Sing to God, later it may change.  Favorite song?  R.E.S. easily, followed right now by A Little Man and a House.  The Special Garage Concerts are great albums too.
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Originally posted by ptkc123 ptkc123 wrote:

Originally posted by Rottenhat Rottenhat wrote:

In principle I like Cardiacs, but the often have a grating wall of noise kinda sound to them that gives me listeners fatigue. I guess I am too old.. Even the most Hard Core RIO/Avant bands usually mellows out a bit between the hard parts, but not Cardiacs...




Guess so. Tongue

I guess I sort of felt the same way the first few times I listened to them, but that shortly left.

Have to give them a go, again :)
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Originally posted by Rottenhat Rottenhat wrote:

Originally posted by ptkc123 ptkc123 wrote:

Originally posted by Rottenhat Rottenhat wrote:

In principle I like Cardiacs, but the often have a grating wall of noise kinda sound to them that gives me listeners fatigue. I guess I am too old.. Even the most Hard Core RIO/Avant bands usually mellows out a bit between the hard parts, but not Cardiacs...




Guess so. Tongue

I guess I sort of felt the same way the first few times I listened to them, but that shortly left.

Have to give them a go, again :)



Sounds good! Big smile

 BTW, does anyone have the recent Tim Smith tribute album, Leader of the Starry Skies? And what do you think of it?
    
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Originally posted by ptkc123 ptkc123 wrote:

 BTW, does anyone have the recent Tim Smith tribute album, Leader of the Starry Skies? And what do you think of it?

Yep, just finished listening to the second disc.  After first listens of each, I definitely enjoy the first one more as it's got a lot of great interpretations on it, but the second disc has some really great ones too (first to spring to mind are those by Sterbus and The Scaramanga Six).
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They began as a punky prog band (the Mothers (Zappa's backing band) of punk ?) and evolved towards a more proggy punk band in the late eighties/early nineties (with a certian boost of energy with comparison to the previoous records). Everything they released is good actually. 
Progsters will prefer 'a little house', more pop-punk appreciating people will be more delighted with 'on land' or 'heaven born'
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AWWWW YEAHHHHH CARDIACS
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I like them a bunch, I've got Sing To God but it bothers me I only have it in digital format. I'm really hoping for an affordable re-release or something soon.
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Originally posted by TheGazzardian TheGazzardian wrote:

I like them a bunch, I've got Sing To God but it bothers me I only have it in digital format. I'm really hoping for an affordable re-release or something soon.

Exactly this Fantastic band. Shame there's no current/readily available CD pressing for Sing To God.
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Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Originally posted by TheGazzardian TheGazzardian wrote:

I like them a bunch, I've got Sing To God but it bothers me I only have it in digital format. I'm really hoping for an affordable re-release or something soon.

Exactly this Fantastic band. Shame there's no current/readily available CD pressing for Sing To God.

As if we need any more reason for Tim to get better than just Tim getting better, this is a reason.  I feel like once he's recovered more, we'll get reissues, plus the Garage Concert Rehearsal DVD and the new album before too long.  As long as he recovers I'll be happy, though too bad they're not touring anymore.
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Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Originally posted by TheGazzardian TheGazzardian wrote:

I like them a bunch, I've got Sing To God but it bothers me I only have it in digital format. I'm really hoping for an affordable re-release or something soon.

Exactly this Fantastic band. Shame there's no current/readily available CD pressing for Sing To God.

As if we need any more reason for Tim to get better than just Tim getting better, this is a reason.  I feel like once he's recovered more, we'll get reissues, plus the Garage Concert Rehearsal DVD and the new album before too long.  As long as he recovers I'll be happy, though too bad they're not touring anymore.

Man, I would totally love to have those on CD/DVD... such wonderful albums. I hope Tim does have a speedy and full recovery. To be able to have a DVD of Cardiacs performances would be a dream. Have any of you guys listened to The Sea Nymphs or Spratleys Japs? Pretty wonderful stuff.
    
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Points: 28772 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2011 at 22:02
Yep, I've heard an album from both of those groups.  Next on my list of full-on attack are Knifeworld and Tim Smith's Extra Special OceanLandWorld. 
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Will attempt to listen to Sing to God tomorrow.
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Be prepared to give it multiple listens - if you're anything like me, it might take some time to grow on you. 
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In case anyone's interested, I found a pretty interesting unofficial Cardiacs website: http://www.cardiacs.org/.

It's got some audio interviews if you look under the 'Music Player' tab.
    
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Originally posted by ptkc123 ptkc123 wrote:

In case anyone's interested, I found a pretty interesting unofficial Cardiacs website: http://www.cardiacs.org/.

It's got some audio interviews if you look under the 'Music Player' tab.

And they have forums over there pretty dedicated to all things Cardiacs/Tim Smith related.  I'm a member there (not as active as here) as is Trouserpress, and the people there really know their Cardiacs.  The Music Player has at least one or two unreleased tracks too, I think.


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Gave Sing to God (pt. 1) a whirl this morning - it was pretty good, but you're right Jon I'm going to need some time with it.
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Glad you enjoyed it so far, hopefully you'll like it more in time.  I'm giving it a spin right now actually, pt. 1 is almost over. 
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