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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2011 at 17:54
Originally posted by FullMoonRising FullMoonRising wrote:

I'm sure I will get and endless mountain of sh*t from this forum for saying this, but I honestly fail to see why prog fans are so obsessed with Peter Gabriel.


How about endless mountains of agreement?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2011 at 19:52
Originally posted by Wanorak Wanorak wrote:

Thank You FullMoonRising!!! I just got the 1970-1975 boxset and the DVD footage is hard to watch!! Peter Gabriel's live singing and theatricality is awful and just looks foolish now. Even then you could hear how much better Phil Collin's voice is!!! Ditto for Fish and Hogarth in Marillion. Hogarth is a much better singer also!!

Why must it be a competition between two totally different singers?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2011 at 22:43
Originally posted by catfood03 catfood03 wrote:


Originally posted by FullMoonRising FullMoonRising wrote:


I'm sure I will get and endless mountain of sh*t from this forum for saying this, but I honestly fail to see why prog fans are so obsessed with Peter Gabriel.
How about endless mountains of agreement?


I too fail to hear the greatness of Gabriel. He even won a "poll/competition" about the best prog singer, above even Peter Hamill, Greg Lake, Francesco Di Giacomo (and well, above Jon Anderson, whom I personally love his singing, but can quiet understand him to being everybody's cup of tea). But well, it's the majority voting...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 29 2011 at 06:29
For the record I do enjoy Gabriel's contribution to the band, both as singer and performer.  I'm just reacting more to people dumping on Collins so much when I think he is as, if not more so, talented than his predecessor.

Gabriel has proven himself a worthy singer/songwriter with his solo material, IMO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 29 2011 at 15:57
I quite enjoy the vocal  doubling-effect at the beginning of "Supper's Ready," where Gabriel and Collins sing together, Collins singing an octave higher in a falsetto/contratenor mode.  Spine-tingling stuff.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2011 at 08:46
In a band Like Genesis where two great Rock vocalists take the band in very different directions over time, you almost have to consider it as two bands. Peter Gabriel's Genesis was much more classic prog with mixed rhythms and Yes/Zeppelin-esc vocal lines. Of course Gabriel's voice isn't comparable to either band really, the classic style that make albums like Foxtrot and the Lamb the favorites of many Genesis Die-Hards.

On the other hand, As a Die-Hard myself, my favorite Genesis album will always be Duke. I feel like I relate to that album as if it were a childhood friend. I love every songs and lyric on it, and yet it is the beginning of Phil Collins' 80's pop trending. I find that Phil's voice has a smoother yet more passionate tone to it, as opposed to Peter Gabriel's rasp and frantic dynamic shifts. Phil brought prog and pop together, which I believe is a constant struggle of all prog artists these days. Simply, how do you get the common person to listen to a complex prog song? you make it relatable to the masses (Invisible Touch, Genesis, I Can't Dance are all good attempts at pop, but the band by this point has strayed so far from the original sound to be more mainstream.

So my argument? I'm sorry fellow Die-Hards, but I love Phil. Just an amazing voice with great precision. Phil seizes to let me down in his solo career to this day. I never would have loved that disney remake of Tarzan if it wasn't for Phil's Voice.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2011 at 09:22
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