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Points: 6088 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 15:31
Originally posted by James James wrote:

The Metamorphosis is awesome.

Henry hates it but then Henry hates everything, unless she's 16, talentless and will ultimately die of an overdose.

You read it here first.  That is my prediction.


She'll die when she's sixty. Once she's in her forties and everyone's forgotten about her, there will be a reality show about her and her family or some sh*t. That's my prediction.
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Points: 67408 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 15:32
The best thing Kafka ever wrote is that one short bit about the two or three people possibly chasing each other.

This one.


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Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

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I am aware Steve visited these parts but I am fairly sure he doesn't like the term "Prog" used with PT.


Yeah that's what he was saying up until 2006-2007. However more recently he said several times that since these days some mainstream bands like Muse or The Mars Volta have made "progressive" and "prog" acceptable again, there's no point in denying it.

Wait...he only cared because "progressive" or "prog" wasn't "acceptable"?  What a tool.
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Points: 16122 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 15:44
I like PTree...

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Points: 65760 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 15:45
Originally posted by NecronCommander NecronCommander wrote:

I like PTree...

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F*ck it, I love Porcupine Tree.  I don't care what you think about that either.
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Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

I am aware Steve visited these parts but I am fairly sure he doesn't like the term "Prog" used with PT.


Yeah that's what he was saying up until 2006-2007. However more recently he said several times that since these days some mainstream bands like Muse or The Mars Volta have made "progressive" and "prog" acceptable again, there's no point in denying it.

Wait...he only cared because "progressive" or "prog" wasn't "acceptable"?  What a tool.


Steve didn't like the term "prog" because it was usually associated with the progressive rock bands of the 70s, and he didn't want PT to live in the shadow of another band/bands. Now, "prog" has a much broader meaning, so he's willing to accept the label.
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I like some of their stuff, but if Wilson really cared about being called prog/progressive ONLY because it wasn't acceptable, then I can't say I'm a fan of him as a person. 
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Originally posted by NecronCommander NecronCommander wrote:

F*ck it, I love Porcupine Tree.  I don't care what you think about that either.
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Points: 65760 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 15:48
Originally posted by NecronCommander NecronCommander wrote:

F*ck it, I love Porcupine Tree.  I don't care what you think about that either.

You are free to like whatever you want. Cool
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Originally posted by Anthony H. Anthony H. wrote:

Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

I am aware Steve visited these parts but I am fairly sure he doesn't like the term "Prog" used with PT.


Yeah that's what he was saying up until 2006-2007. However more recently he said several times that since these days some mainstream bands like Muse or The Mars Volta have made "progressive" and "prog" acceptable again, there's no point in denying it.

Wait...he only cared because "progressive" or "prog" wasn't "acceptable"?  What a tool.


Steve didn't like the term "prog" because it was usually associated with the progressive rock bands of the 70s, and he didn't want PT to live in the shadow of another band/bands. Now, "prog" has a much broader meaning, so he's willing to accept the label.

So what did he want to be called instead, rock?  Then along with the prog giants, he's also in the shadow of every rock band who came before him (Elvis, Beatles, etc.)
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Points: 66365 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 15:52

It is comments like that that probably got him the King Crimson re-mixing gig.



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I can't speak for the guy, but I certainly don't think it has anything to with the "acceptability" of the term.
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Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

I am aware Steve visited these parts but I am fairly sure he doesn't like the term "Prog" used with PT.


Yeah that's what he was saying up until 2006-2007. However more recently he said several times that since these days some mainstream bands like Muse or The Mars Volta have made "progressive" and "prog" acceptable again, there's no point in denying it.

Wait...he only cared because "progressive" or "prog" wasn't "acceptable"?  What a tool.


He didn't have himself anything against the word and concept of "progressive", the media had. The point was that being labeled "progressive" would have meant suicide for your band. You would get burried alive regardless of your music being good or bad.
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Points: 28772 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 16:01
Well I'd be upset too if someone compared me to neo prog Tongue, but as long as I've known the term "progressive" it's seemed like a pretty broad term.  After all, it covers everything from fusion to avant-garde/RIO to symphonic to psychedelic to some death metal to math rock to Krautrock to...well, you get the point. LOL
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Points: 22989 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 16:03
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Well I'd be upset too if someone compared me to neo prog Tongue, but as long as I've known the term "progressive" it's seemed like a pretty broad term.  After all, it covers everything from fusion to avant-garde/RIO to symphonic to psychedelic to some death metal to math rock to Krautrock to...well, you get the point. LOL


No, it was until recently a way to say "awful, dated rock".
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Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

LOL that festival is awful. 


This is THE festival of the year. I just wish we could have it in Europe... Cry


I'll let you keep it if I can have Primavera.
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 16:32
That's Neo Prog, Alex. Tongue

Neo Prog sounds much more dated than classic prog.  Plus it's mostly awful.
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Points: 65760 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 16:39
Neo prog is one genre I could never get into.
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 16:49
I did like a Darwin's Radio track oddly enough.  I doubt I would how... not sure.

I like Anglagard of course but they're not Neo Prog.
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