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Posted: January 22 2011 at 16:48
lucas wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
lucas wrote:
Joanna Newsom is not pop , she is, according to Roy Harper's own words "a pioneer of folk rock music like him".
Yeah, if you want to use the most precise tags and descriptors, then nothing's pop. But even so, Joanna Newsom is folk rock in the same universe where Jethro Tull is atmospheric black metal If we're into precise tagging, I'd say that what Joanna plays is acoustically supported vocal music, with a great emphasis on both composition and melody. Pop, in my book.
I remember a guy at a jazz gig, who told me that he hates pop when I was talking about ELP You are right, generally speaking every artist/band from the Beatles to Cradle of Filth can be regarded as pop. Only jazz and classical music would escape this tagging
Jazz and classical escaped only because they had no MTV and VH1 back in their day
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Posted: January 22 2011 at 17:03
You'd love that album, it's very sophisticated and ambitious, even progressive at times. I recommend it to you (the new one from 2010 is nowhere near that good, IMO).
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Posted: January 31 2011 at 07:50
I am sorry guys, but no pop "artists" these days stand a chance against what pop used to be in the past: Depeche Mode, Elton John, Michael Jackson, Duran Duran, Tears for Fears, Soft Cell, Level 42 etc... Those guys had "balls", nowadays there are only puppets.
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Posted: January 31 2011 at 08:15
overmatik wrote:
I am sorry guys, but no pop "artists" these days stand a chance against what pop used to be in the past: Depeche Mode, Elton John, Michael Jackson, Duran Duran, Tears for Fears, Soft Cell, Level 42 etc... Those guys had "balls", nowadays there are only puppets.
I assume sarcasm, not sure though. If not, there be a few jokes lined up for those who choose to swing.
As others have mentioned, it depends what counts as Pop. If you mean top 40, the internet has vastly changed the face of music. There's lots of great music in the realm of Pop, but top 40 is completely different than it was in the days of Casey Kasem.
You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Posted: January 31 2011 at 10:31
overmatik wrote:
I am sorry guys, but no pop "artists" these days stand a chance against what pop used to be in the past: Depeche Mode, Elton John, Michael Jackson, Duran Duran, Tears for Fears, Soft Cell, Level 42 etc... Those guys had "balls", nowadays there are only puppets.
I don't consider Depeche Mode music of the past as opposed to the pitty worthy present, they are in an excellent moment of their career, not at all like some of their contemporaries which are now some sort of Madame Toussaud's act (U2, Metallica, etc.)
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lucas wrote:
, she is, according to Roy Harper's own words "a pioneer of folk rock music like him".
If we're into precise tagging, I'd say that what Joanna plays is acoustically supported vocal music, with a great emphasis on both composition and melody. Pop, in my book. 
You are right, generally speaking every artist/band from the Beatles to Cradle of Filth can be regarded as pop. Only jazz and classical music would escape this tagging 
. So I'll chime in what I think is good recent pop 
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