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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 00:49
I like how so many of our lists are similar. We may not be able to agree on whether or not Yes or Genesis is better, but we are united by hate. <3 Everything on my list has pretty much been covered. I could complain about any number of things, but I think this thread is getting off-topic from its original intent, which seems to have been "activities/media/food you dislike" but we're drifting towards "general things that annoy me/I consider evil". You can't be "not into" corporations, greedy people, pregnancy tests, and disease.
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

GovernmentMisuse of Statistics90% of Popular Science Writing

Popular science writing?!? That one was different, just curious about that one.
It's usually misleading and best and outright false at worst. The media's inability/unwillingness to coherently report on science issues causes a lot of problems in society. Besides the "X is good for you! Y is bad for you! Gorge yourself on X and avoid Y at all costs! Wait, it's been 6 months and there's been a new small study on mice, it's actually the other way around!", the real damage comes from giving any legitimacy to the idiotic anti-vaxxers, AGW deniers, and any other pseudoscience that has caught public attention, in attempt to appear "fair". 
Originally posted by Anthony H. Anthony H. wrote:

-Genocide
-Child Torture
Few people have the courage to take a bold stance against genocide and child torture, bravo. I'm glad that you qualified only child torture, though. Otherwise I might feel bad for all the adults I'm planning to torture (PHIL COLLINS YOUR NUMBER IS UP).


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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 00:54
Phil Collins!?
Perfect time for Henry's sig....


United in hate we stand!

And since we're now making very (not) bold statements


Animal Abuse.
Seems obvious, but I really hate it. I don't care...those sad animal commercials would make me lose it if I left them on, just the thought of it. And when I hear a story about it...I get filled with sadness and rage



Tarantino films. Sorry edgy people and general masses, guess I don't "get it" Inglorious Basterds was the only one I liked.
With that, also Boondock Saints.
Saw no appeal whatsoever.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 00:57
Politics, cars, business, Jersey Shore, webspeak, drinking, partying, fancy food, dancing, fantasy literary/movie/game genres, dressing up, cleaning, probably a lot more too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 01:15
Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

I'm really not into people.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 08:25
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

It's usually misleading and best and outright false at worst. The media's inability/unwillingness to coherently report on science issues causes a lot of problems in society. Besides the "X is good for you! Y is bad for you! Gorge yourself on X and avoid Y at all costs! Wait, it's been 6 months and there's been a new small study on mice, it's actually the other way around!", the real damage comes from giving any legitimacy to the idiotic anti-vaxxers, AGW deniers, and any other pseudoscience that has caught public attention, in attempt to appear "fair". 


Sometimes reading those articles you can almost envision the "journalist" interviewing the scientist, taking notes, and struggling mightily to figure out what the hell the other person is talking about.  Obviously my favorite are articles about new DoD radar systems, the explanations of their capabilities are laughably bad, but at least there I wouldn't necessarily expect a layman to know the relevant physics.  What irks me is just basic misunderstanding about the scientific method, or engaging in post hoc fallacies, or as already stated gross misuse of statistics.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 08:31
Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

I'm really not into people.


More and more, I'm finding that Jean-Paul Sartre was right:  Hell IS other people.


"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 08:32
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

I like how so many of our lists are similar. We may not be able to agree on whether or not Yes or Genesis is better, but we are united by hate. <3 Everything on my list has pretty much been covered. I could complain about any number of things, but I think this thread is getting off-topic from its original intent, which seems to have been "activities/media/food you dislike" but we're drifting towards "general things that annoy me/I consider evil". You can't be "not into" corporations, greedy people, pregnancy tests, and disease.
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

GovernmentMisuse of Statistics90% of Popular Science Writing

Popular science writing?!? That one was different, just curious about that one.
It's usually misleading and best and outright false at worst. The media's inability/unwillingness to coherently report on science issues causes a lot of problems in society. Besides the "X is good for you! Y is bad for you! Gorge yourself on X and avoid Y at all costs! Wait, it's been 6 months and there's been a new small study on mice, it's actually the other way around!", the real damage comes from giving any legitimacy to the idiotic anti-vaxxers, AGW deniers, and any other pseudoscience that has caught public attention, in attempt to appear "fair". 
Originally posted by Anthony H. Anthony H. wrote:

-Genocide
-Child Torture
Few people have the courage to take a bold stance against genocide and child torture, bravo. I'm glad that you qualified only child torture, though. Otherwise I might feel bad for all the adults I'm planning to torture (PHIL COLLINS YOUR NUMBER IS UP).


As is the norm for Henry a very perceptive and carefully considered post but we are NOT united by hate, just irritation.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 08:33
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Oh... I forgot my single most Not-into thing since I was a child: dancing


Damn straight, dancing is a war crime against flooring.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 08:40
Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

I'm really not into people.


Not even of the female kind?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 08:55
Surfing
playing sports
mining
bungee jumping
smoking
drunken behaviour
dancing
gardening
swimming
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 09:03
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:


Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

It's usually misleading and best and outright false at worst. The media's inability/unwillingness to coherently report on science issues causes a lot of problems in society. Besides the "X is good for you! Y is bad for you! Gorge yourself on X and avoid Y at all costs! Wait, it's been 6 months and there's been a new small study on mice, it's actually the other way around!", the real damage comes from giving any legitimacy to the idiotic anti-vaxxers, AGW deniers, and any other pseudoscience that has caught public attention, in attempt to appear "fair". 

Sometimes reading those articles you can almost envision the "journalist" interviewing the scientist, taking notes, and struggling mightily to figure out what the hell the other person is talking about.  Obviously my favorite are articles about new DoD radar systems, the explanations of their capabilities are laughably bad, but at least there I wouldn't necessarily expect a layman to know the relevant physics.  What irks me is just basic misunderstanding about the scientific method, or engaging in post hoc fallacies, or as already stated gross misuse of statistics.


I get it, bad science. My favorite bad science is when people use the particular weather of that day or week to prove or disprove global warming. For instance; sure was cold today, those global warming people are nuts, or damn its hot out, I hate global warming, neither is acceptable.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 14:31
I'm really dislike the opinion that advertising is bad.
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 14:37
Originally posted by EasyMoney EasyMoney wrote:


Popular science writing?!? That one was different, just curious about that one.



First off my main issue is that it's bad writing. Just boring, pointless writing. It often focuses on the human aspects of the story to make up for the authors complete inability to report on something effectively.

Secondly, propagating false information is bad. Misleading information is just as bad as false information. It also skews public opinion about what scientists do, why they do it, and why they should and shouldn't care.

Thirdly, they often over popularize. In an attempt to make the ideas more and more understandable, they often completely degrade the actual significance of the result. A lot of time this just shows lazy journalism in that they're unable to express the idea so just abandon it and make up what they find to be the most important detail of a discovery, or they just never researched it well enough to know in the first place. Lot's of writing about the solution to Poincare's Conjecture did this.


Edited by Equality 7-2521 - January 08 2011 at 14:38
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 14:43
^ I got ya, sort of like an article about a jazz or modern classical musician in the Sunday feature part of the local newspaper, those are always good.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 14:44
Yeah. They always seem to rate every new jazz/classical album 3/4 stars. It's like they have no idea what they're listening to so they give it a good, but not amazing rating and write some banal description that could apply to any album ever made.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 14:51
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 14:51
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I'm really dislike the opinion that advertising is bad.


How so?

Advertising can be good, if honest, but I find that very hard to come by.

Most advertising has the goal of getting people to want a product. Sometimes they need that product, a lot of times not. Rarely is there just advertising with the goal of accurately depicting the product's flaws and positives and not trying to spin it. Adults should have some sense of caution when taking the word of advertisements for what they say they are, but that doesn't mean I should believe ads are good if their main goal is to get people to buy a product, often through omission that the product has any number of faults.

But I wonder how anyone not profiting from the sale of products marketed to children on television can say that is a good thing. Especially when it comes to completely unhealthy food products with childrens' pop culture icons hocking junk food.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 22:14
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

How about if we added mushrooms to your egg salad sandwich?   Yummo.
That, for me, would be the epitome of a "sandwich from hell"-impossible, under any circumstances, to eat

          
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 22:32
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I'm really dislike the opinion that advertising is bad.


How so?

Advertising can be good, if honest, but I find that very hard to come by.

Most advertising has the goal of getting people to want a product. Sometimes they need that product, a lot of times not. Rarely is there just advertising with the goal of accurately depicting the product's flaws and positives and not trying to spin it. Adults should have some sense of caution when taking the word of advertisements for what they say they are, but that doesn't mean I should believe ads are good if their main goal is to get people to buy a product, often through omission that the product has any number of faults.

But I wonder how anyone not profiting from the sale of products marketed to children on television can say that is a good thing. Especially when it comes to completely unhealthy food products with childrens' pop culture icons hocking junk food.

Advertising imparts information to the consumer. I receive about 5 emails a day with very helpful advertising. Often tv advertising helps me discover a product I would know nothing about otherwise.

If you're stupid enough to buy something you don't need just because you saw it appear on tv, then you should probably be shot. Most criticism of advertising doesn't really make sense. It assumes that consumers are mindlessly buying things just because they've heard of it. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 23:41
I do not like Green Eggs and  Ham, I do not like them, Sam-I-Am!

    (I owe that one to my childhood, and Dr. Seuss!)


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