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Textbook 
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Posted: January 05 2011 at 20:48 |
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Fire away, might chime in with some explaining later but right now I'll just let people handle the question.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: January 05 2011 at 20:56 |
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Psychology or a form of mind control?
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Epignosis
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Posted: January 05 2011 at 21:09 |
Yes. No. Maybe. Depends on how you define your terms.
Thanks Slart, my mind isn't controlled. Except by my wife. 
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Kazuhiro
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Posted: January 05 2011 at 21:12 |
The Buddhism is still a main current in Japan. Of course, this thought that it transmitted it from India.
Psychology might relate a little to the religion. However, the Buddhism at least accompanies training. This has the purpose to escape from all actually pains.
There is a fact with a result from the cause. It is said that the result will change by doing training that deletes it when it is bad that the cause is true.
And, the training monk excludes all pains by training. Limitation of meal. The mind and body's purification with waterfall and water. Or, the mind and body is purified by using the sutra.
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: January 05 2011 at 21:13 |
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I have no idea what this thread is about so I'm going to vote no.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: January 05 2011 at 21:14 |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: January 05 2011 at 21:23 |
 Epignosis wrote:
Yes. No. Maybe. Depends on how you define your terms.
Thanks Slart, my mind isn't controlled. Except by my wife.
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Your wife is likely a form of mind control and she is so good you aren't aware of it.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: January 05 2011 at 21:23 |
If Psychology can be deemed to have a goal, it would be that of
understanding humanity (thought processes and behaviours) Ergo, it might
be able to explain our need to construct religions but could not validate any transcendental belief system as real. Psychology seems to me to be a secular, atheist discipline? BTW Like many similar polls, the vagueness of the question I suspect is transparently deliberate just to elicit some entertaining\flaming responses 
Edited by ExittheLemming - January 05 2011 at 21:24
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Textbook
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Posted: January 05 2011 at 22:34 |
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It's just that religious views seem to be entirely psychological in nature, whether believer or not. I'm not sure it's a separate discipline at all.
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Epignosis
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Posted: January 05 2011 at 22:47 |
Textbook wrote:
It's just that religious views seem to be entirely psychological in nature, whether believer or not. I'm not sure it's a separate discipline at all. |
Sweeping generalizations are psychological too.
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TheGazzardian
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Posted: January 05 2011 at 22:54 |
Textbook wrote:
It's just that religious views seem to be entirely psychological in nature, whether believer or not. I'm not sure it's a separate discipline at all. |
No? 
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The T
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 00:48 |
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Textbook, there is a difference: you need a psychologist badly, but in the end only religion might be able to still save you.
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npjnpj
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 01:42 |
I have this
problem that the mention of the word religion triggers a sort of revulsion
reflex with me. Too much harm is being done and has been done in that name. Makes me really, really angry. Effin' Pope and counterparts all around the globe!
Strange because I do believe in God or some higher being quite strongly.
In my view there has never been a repression and control tool quite as blatant
and despicable as religion, and yes, it's ALL psychology. I think it was catholic priests and monks who originally coined the phrase: Boys should be felt and not heard?
Oh yeah, before I forget: My God is miles better than all of yours! If you don't believe me, we can have a war about it. Bring it on, Suckers!
Edited by npjnpj - January 06 2011 at 02:04
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idlero
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 03:14 |
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Yes
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Yes???
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Blacksword
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 03:47 |
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Is religion psychology?
No. Psychology is a branch of analytical science looking at human behaviours, and religion is a faith based belief in higher powers, incorporating a 'code of conduct' for living. In a nutshell..
Following a religious path can maybe be explained with a psychology approach, but no more so than following a certain political path, or a liking for prog rock.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 04:14 |
Religion has a lot to do with psychology ... but of course they're not the same. It's not even like apples vs. oranges - more like apples vs. trees.
Epignosis wrote:
Thanks Slart, my mind isn't controlled. Except by my wife. |
There's a difference though in how people make decisions - the religious ones tend to defer to authorities more easily. For example, if I asked you whether abortion was moral or immoral, you would rather quickly refer to scripture or other religious persons (leaders). I do think that religion affects how we think, and thus our psychology.
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Prog Geo
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 04:36 |
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Unfortunately,yes.
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npjnpj
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 04:44 |
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In a nutshell:
Religion is applied psychology.
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 04:47 |
^ Replace "applied" with "exploited" or "abused", and you're getting there.
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Epignosis
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 06:34 |
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
Religion has a lot to do with psychology ... but of course they're not the same. It's not even like apples vs. oranges - more like apples vs. trees.
Epignosis wrote:
Thanks Slart, my mind isn't controlled. Except by my wife. |
There's a difference though in how people make decisions - the religious ones tend to defer to authorities more easily. For example, if I asked you whether abortion was moral or immoral, you would rather quickly refer to scripture or other religious persons (leaders). I do think that religion affects how we think, and thus our psychology. |
You need to visit the Libertarian thread more often. I don't need a Bible or religious authority to show why abortion is wrong.
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