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Points: 4515 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2010 at 02:44

I'm not into vinyl, but CD/mp3 loudness is a plague.
(By loudness I mean the compression thing, not the volume, there are volume knobs and buttons to tune that)

Here is a nicely mastered classic:



And here's the typical thing you get these days. I can't listen to that for 40 minutes, it's deafening.



The first one to guess which tracks are represented here gets a crate of Belgian beer!
You may choose between compressed and non-compressed beers. Big smile



Edited by Bonnek - December 23 2010 at 04:11
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Agree, not to mention, that you have to reset volume dramaticly on your system, everytime you move from older recording to those 21 century CD's.
When im not alone, guests or Wify in the room, i tend to go random, on the PC, then its just impossible to find a good overall volume. 
 
Im not even mentioning vinyl here.


Edited by tamijo - December 23 2010 at 03:18
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Points: 202 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2010 at 05:48
Great post, Bonnek.  This illustrates how this is not something that can be resolved simply by turning down the volume knob - information is actually being thrown away in the remaster.
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Points: 29630 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2010 at 06:58
Originally posted by ProgBob ProgBob wrote:

Great post, Bonnek.  This illustrates how this is not something that can be resolved simply by turning down the volume knob - information is actually being thrown away in the remaster.

More like illustrates how you can make an illustration show whatever you want these days. Tongue
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Points: 4287 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2010 at 07:06
Originally posted by Bonnek Bonnek wrote:


I'm not into vinyl, but CD/mp3 loudness is a plague.
(By loudness I mean the compression thing, not the volume, there are volume knobs and buttons to tune that)

Here is a nicely mastered classic:



And here's the typical thing you get these days. I can't listen to that for 40 minutes, it's deafening.



The first one to guess which tracks are represented here gets a crate of Belgian beer!
You may choose between compressed and non-compressed beers. Big smile

That looks like me making music, NICE ! LOL, Power to the People !
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Points: 178 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2010 at 14:14
Originally posted by Bonnek Bonnek wrote:


I'm not into vinyl, but CD/mp3 loudness is a plague.
(By loudness I mean the compression thing, not the volume, there are volume knobs and buttons to tune that)

Here is a nicely mastered classic:



And here's the typical thing you get these days. I can't listen to that for 40 minutes, it's deafening.



The first one to guess which tracks are represented here gets a crate of Belgian beer!
You may choose between compressed and non-compressed beers. Big smile



That last one look like something from Muse's last record.

This vid explains a bit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ
http://daccord-music.com/home.cfm
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Points: 4515 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2010 at 09:18

^ Great link!
And no it ain't Muse, it's the opening track of Mastodon's Crack the Sky, a loundess fest of sorts
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I was laughing so hard when watching this video making fun of the loudness war.  I'd definitely recommend watching it even if you're not a Metallica fan.  (I'm sure as hell not)
Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell?
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Originally posted by himtroy himtroy wrote:

I was laughing so hard when watching this video making fun of the loudness war.  I'd definitely recommend watching it even if you're not a Metallica fan.  (I'm sure as hell not)


\\\LOLLOLLOL
 
I want the Rush - Aural Sodomy Edition!
 
 
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Points: 14258 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 25 2010 at 03:55
Heres a cute clip regarding all this
 
WARNING TURN DOWN YOUR SPEAKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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In some cases I have experienced the opposite......some CD's I have also on vinyl I have noticed the recordings are lower. Some weird compression going on, the one that comes to mind is Rush - Moving Pictures. Not only does the vinyl sound and play better but it is louder than the CD version I have.
There are a few others where I have noticed this. But in general most of my CDs do sound louder than what they should be but more dynamically loud than volume loud.
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Points: 29630 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 27 2010 at 16:32
There's this thing called a volume control.  Maybe one day you will find it. Headbanger

Edited by Slartibartfast - December 27 2010 at 16:46
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Points: 17847 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 27 2010 at 16:40
I've looked for it...how do you spell VOLUME? I'll print this page out and compare to my receiver knobs
 
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Points: 29630 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 27 2010 at 16:45
I'd have spelled it wright it's too freakin' loud.
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Points: 17847 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 27 2010 at 17:03

What...i can't hear u?
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