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JJLehto 
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Joined: April 05 2006
Location: Tallahassee, FL
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Points: 34550
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 Posted: December 21 2010 at 00:30 |
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The only good music came from the year 1967.
Before and after that it's absolute sh*t, and calling it music is really just a travesty.
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Tapfret
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Joined: August 12 2007
Location: Bryant, Wa
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Points: 8581
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Posted: December 21 2010 at 00:40 |
Everything sucked before and after this ------------------> 
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Henry Plainview
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Joined: May 26 2008
Location: Declined
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Posted: December 21 2010 at 01:12 |
 zappaholic wrote:
ALL MUSIC IS CRAP.
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I honestly agree with this, I don't know why people have such trouble accepting it.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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richardh
Prog Reviewer
Joined: February 18 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Online
Points: 28271
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Posted: December 21 2010 at 01:33 |
The Zenith of prog creativity has to be
ELP - In The Hot Seat
Genesis - The Way We Walk
Yes - Magnification
they were all messing around before then
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JJLehto
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Joined: April 05 2006
Location: Tallahassee, FL
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Posted: December 21 2010 at 01:36 |
Tapfret wrote:
Everything sucked before and after this ------------------>
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Oh true. 1967 + St Anger Those were the only times music was good. Ever.
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
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Points: 16130
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Posted: December 21 2010 at 03:32 |
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These days I only really listen to music recorded in the last week or so. After 7 days an artist becomes a parody of themselves, and totally prediciable and therefore artistically irrelvant to anything.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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harmonium.ro
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Joined: August 18 2008
Location: Anna Calvi
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Posted: December 21 2010 at 05:04 |
Easy Money wrote:
Pre-89 music is awful, they didn't have digital pitch adjusters for the vocalists in post-production so you know all the vocals are horribly out of tune, also studios only had 16 tracks or fewer, music done with less than 32 tracks cannot compete in todays competitive music market.
Most great music is on digital files. LPs, 8-tracks and cassettes are rubbish, they sound like garbage or trash. |
If Fripp knew we'd have mixers with unlimited numbers of channels, he would have waited 30 years to record ITCOCK.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Location: Australia
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Posted: December 21 2010 at 07:42 |
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I am glad this is in JUST FOR FUN now - To take any of this seriously would be a serious misjudgement of sanity.
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topographicbroadways
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Joined: May 20 2010
Location: Australia
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Points: 5575
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Posted: December 21 2010 at 12:08 |
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i never understand the post-89/pre-89 arguments music changed way more between 1979 and 1980 than it did between 1989 and 1990
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: December 21 2010 at 12:15 |
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IMO the most important revolutionary moments in the history of modern pop music are: 1) 1955, birth of rock'n'roll 2) 1965, Bob Dylan goes electric, classic rock can come 3) 1977, punk lives a very short life but it gives us alternative rock, which is still with us today.
This leaves out all forms of metal and electronic music, but IMO they've had an organic evolution, they didn't go against what was before. Their history has "landmark" moments rather than "revolutionary" ones.
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lazland
Prog Reviewer
Joined: October 28 2008
Location: Wales
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Points: 13699
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Posted: December 21 2010 at 12:51 |
topographicbroadways wrote:
i never understand the post-89/pre-89 arguments music changed way more between 1979 and 1980 than it did between 1989 and 1990 |
This is because your name is not Walter. This is a good thing  
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Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org
Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time!
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someone_else
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Joined: May 02 2008
Location: Going Bananas
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Posted: December 21 2010 at 13:06 |
Pre-89 music is not dead. It is not even undead, it is immortal.
In PA's studio album top 100, there are 71 pre-89 albums, of which the first one is encountered on #13.
Edited by someone_else - December 21 2010 at 13:18
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CPicard
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Joined: October 03 2008
Location: Là, sui monti.
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Posted: December 21 2010 at 13:20 |
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I only listen to ancient Greek music, which vibrations had been recorded on old ceramics discs.
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Padraic
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Posted: December 21 2010 at 13:21 |
someone_else wrote:
Pre-89 music is not dead. It is not even undead, it is immortal.
In PA's studio album top 100, there are 71 pre-89 albums, of which the first one is encountered on #13.
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Just a wild guess, but I don't think you were supposed to take this thread seriously...
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someone_else
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Posted: December 21 2010 at 13:42 |
Padraic wrote:
someone_else wrote:
Pre-89 music is not dead. It is not even undead, it is immortal.
In PA's studio album top 100, there are 71 pre-89 albums, of which the first one is encountered on #13.
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Just a wild guess, but I don't think you were supposed to take this thread seriously... |
You are obviously right, my answer was too serious (but while doing some research I detected a possible error in the WR calculation, used for the ordering).
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Tapfret
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Joined: August 12 2007
Location: Bryant, Wa
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Posted: December 21 2010 at 16:19 |
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I have no time for your retrograde buffoonery.
Accept creativity, refute the ramblings of extinct species.
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Anthony H.
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Joined: April 11 2010
Location: Virginia
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Points: 6088
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Posted: December 21 2010 at 16:30 |
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The only real music was released in April 1983.
Edited by Anthony H. - December 21 2010 at 16:36
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Baggra
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Joined: December 16 2010
Location: Canada
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Posted: December 21 2010 at 16:48 |
Okay, I realize your all not being serious on this thread, but Id like to say:
for myself the turning point, the most important period in "modern" music is '60-'64*, when artists began to put out their OWN work and not just mirror previous success/fad.
* even though the music was rather shoite.
And you know what? Im not being serious here either.
Devil's advocate, like.
Recall its the Baggman who previously claimed he LIKES shameless copyists - new bands imitating the 70s prog.
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moshkito
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Joined: January 04 2007
Location: Grok City
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Posted: December 21 2010 at 20:12 |
Eärendil wrote:
I think it's common knowledge by now that all older music (with the cutoff at exactly 1989) is irrelevant. Not only is it unoriginal, but also bad. All of the pre-89 music will soon fade into oblivion to be seceded by the vastly superior modern music. The noise created by these pre-89 caveman should not even be called music. Say NO to the dark shadow of music past and embrace the present! |
Even I will not be that mean to Walter.
Sorry, but I personally feel that the post is mis-guided, ethnocentric and disrespectful to a lot of music ... you might as well stretch your point to say that Beethoven is stupid, Mozart sux and Bach is a flippin idiot! ... and that today's music makes all of them look like white punks on dope ... actually, I would like to suggest the opposite, and I am not trying to tube down a band!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
www.pedrosena.com
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presdoug
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Joined: January 24 2010
Location: Canada
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Posted: December 21 2010 at 20:35 |
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No music, as long as it is listened to and appreciated, is dead, regardless of what any "fashion", or "in vogue" period would dictate
heck, i listen to and appreciate music recordings from before 1900, let alone 1989, and they work wonders for me
the worst thing that anybody can do is to dictate what has value and what does not
All music is not crap, it is all good -to whomever likes it
Edited by presdoug - December 21 2010 at 20:37
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