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Posted: June 04 2010 at 10:07
Meat. I don't see how it's an oversimplification. The situation in the film was that the company was losing money by continuing to employ these people. Any sane business owner would have laid them all off, but Michael tries to paint the company as evil because it doesn't want to lose money.
Meat. I don't see how it's an oversimplification. The situation in the film was that the company was losing money by continuing to employ these people. Any sane business owner would have laid them all off, but Michael tries to paint the company as evil because it doesn't want to lose money.
There, you see? You did it again. ; )
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 11:47
thellama73 wrote:
Meat. I don't see how it's an oversimplification. The situation in the film was that the company was losing money by continuing to employ these people. Any sane business owner would have laid them all off, but Michael tries to paint the company as evil because it doesn't want to lose money.
The company wasn't losing money, they just wanted a larger percentage to go to the top. I can't eat rabbits as they are too cute what with their wiggly noses and everything. Though they do tend to poop a lot...
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 15:33
Most of the stuff he talks about is pretty dead-on. You would have to be completely brainwashed to disagree with EVERY thing he says, regardless if you do or don't like him.
But in Bowling For Columbine, i think he painted Canada a bit differently than it really is. It basically tried to get the point across that Canada doesn't have murders, and people don't lock their doors and there isn't much to be scared about here. Maybe its just that Vancouver is a scarier place to live then a border town in Ontario, but our house got broken into two months ago; there have been about 4 or 5 murders in a 10 block radius the past year, and a neighbour got firebombed in a gang-related dispute...
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Posted: June 06 2010 at 03:25
fourth page already???
I'll agree with Moore most of the time, (roughly 95% of the time) although I didn't see his latest (lack of time)
but for a movie like Fahrenheit 911, he wasn'learning me a lot.... I suspected roughly 80% of what he told us in there.
let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Posted: June 06 2010 at 04:53
Slartibartfast wrote:
Mike wasn't engaged in oversimplification that much. He was just making a comparison between what goes on in our country vs. Canada.
As an outsider, I thought the point he was making (or at least trying to) was not so much between the two countries, but between two cities (Detroit and Windsor) connected by the Ambassador Bridge.. illustrating the differences between the two cultures barely a mile apart across a strip of asphalt and concrete.
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Posted: June 08 2010 at 14:11
I voted "Never" but there needs to an "Almost Never" option. I do agree that he has some very interesting things to say, but I think I would be able to respect him more if his films were fairer and more mature.
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Posted: December 07 2010 at 19:21
I agree with him most of the time. I find his films quite entertaining, as we share similar views pertaining to health care, 9/11, gun control, and the like.
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Posted: December 15 2010 at 23:32
Well, I've seen Bowling for Columbine, Farenheit 9/11 and Capitalism: A Love Story. I probably agree with about 87% of what he has to say. I always get really angry when I see his movies, but I understand a filmmaker has to play with emotions to get his point across.
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Posted: December 15 2010 at 23:38
I've always had a problem with "let's replace capitalism with democracy"... I mean one is an economic system, the other one is a political system. That kind of misinformation is learned by some people who don't know better and then they have some ridiculous misconceptions.
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Posted: December 16 2010 at 04:05
Michael Moore is viling to bail out Julian Assanges from jail , so he is on Wikileaks side, or at least suports Julian. and also are willing to cooporate, by lending his own network. so Ive read it. , they ionly need a third guy to beocme the three prophets for freedom from diplomatic correctness and secrets, if only Jon Stewart also join thier ranks and become their ancorer, that would be cool, Julian provieds the info and runs the buisnes and network, Moore is the corespondent and goes out and interviews in the fiels and Jon to what he dose best, he host the show and presents the leaks, and documents in the best daily show manner, with a ton of satire. (I can see it for me)
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Posted: December 21 2010 at 01:33
I'm a pretty liberal guy, but Moore's arguments are emotionally-based and poorly constructed. Sicko should have praised the healthcare reforms of Western Europe or Canada, but CUBA? What a joke. The film was banned in Cuba because it showed a quality of healthcare that only the elite few received, and Cuba's government didn't want it to incite a revolution.
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thellama73 wrote:
, they ionly need a third guy to beocme the three prophets for freedom from diplomatic correctness and secrets, if only Jon Stewart also join thier ranks and become their ancorer, that would be cool, Julian provieds the info and runs the buisnes and network, Moore is the corespondent and goes out and interviews in the fiels and Jon to what he dose best, he host the show and presents the leaks, and documents in the best daily show manner, with a ton of satire. (I can see it for me)
