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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Isn't there a Jethro Tull vinyl 7 inch single that was pressed with the name of the band misspelled as Jethro Toe?

ELP were not allowed to play their version of the hymn Jerusalem on stage in England during the 70's (the censor presumably deemed it sacrilegious) This can't be true. It is on Welcome Back My Friends......  And as Jerusalem was a single this makes no sense.

ELP could not release Still You Turn Me On as a single from the Brain Salad Surgery album as an ELP record because Carl Palmer doesn't play on it. (This is a stipulation of the Performing Rights Society I think) Carl plays tambourine surely?




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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Isn't there a Jethro Tull vinyl 7 inch single that was pressed with the name of the band misspelled as Jethro Toe?

ELP were not allowed to play their version of the hymn Jerusalem on stage in England during the 70's (the censor presumably deemed it sacrilegious)

ELP could not release Still You Turn Me On as a single from the Brain Salad Surgery album as an ELP record because Carl Palmer doesn't play on it. (This is a stipulation of the Performing Rights Society I think)




According to Keith,(in his autobiography) he and Carl vetoed the realease of Still.. You Turn Me On as a single, because they didn't feel that Greg Lake ballads were representative of ELP's music.
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Originally posted by silverpot silverpot wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Isn't there a Jethro Tull vinyl 7 inch single that was pressed with the name of the band misspelled as Jethro Toe?

ELP were not allowed to play their version of the hymn Jerusalem on stage in England during the 70's (the censor presumably deemed it sacrilegious)

ELP could not release Still You Turn Me On as a single from the Brain Salad Surgery album as an ELP record because Carl Palmer doesn't play on it. (This is a stipulation of the Performing Rights Society I think)




According to Keith,(in his autobiography) he and Carl vetoed the realease of Still.. You Turn Me On as a single, because they didn't feel that Greg Lake ballads were representative of ELP's music.

That sounds more likely.
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 ^ there is strong evidence Bo Hansson and Jimi Hendrix were in fact the same person; to this day the two men have never been seen together except a brief "meeting" in Stockholm, 1967.  They inexplicably both happened to record 'Tax Free', and Jan Carlsson's drumming was almost identical to Mitch Mitchell's.  I think the facts speak for themselves.  Who's with me?   


Seems right to me..
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the word 'Master' in Sabbath's Master Of reality album actually refers to the master tapes of the recordings and the lyrics where all about reality hence the title...
-music is like pornography...

sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more...



-sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue...
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Originally posted by friso friso wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

 ^ there is strong evidence Bo Hansson and Jimi Hendrix were in fact the same person; to this day the two men have never been seen together except a brief "meeting" in Stockholm, 1967.  They inexplicably both happened to record 'Tax Free', and Jan Carlsson's drumming was almost identical to Mitch Mitchell's.  I think the facts speak for themselves.  Who's with me?   


Seems right to me..


Strong evidence indeed. Hensson/Handrix is probably the only person known to have died twice.
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The late actor/comedian Phil Hartman did album cover art for several bands in the 1970s.  I'm not sure how many he did exactly, but he did at least 1 for Prog Archives band Steely Dan.  He also designed the logo for Crosby, Stills and Nash.
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Former guitar player/vocalist for Triumvirat the late Helmut Koellen was also an Auto Mechanic and Race Car Driver
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Isn't there a Jethro Tull vinyl 7 inch single that was pressed with the name of the band misspelled as Jethro Toe?

ELP were not allowed to play their version of the hymn Jerusalem on stage in England during the 70's (the censor presumably deemed it sacrilegious) This can't be true. It is on Welcome Back My Friends......  And as Jerusalem was a single this makes no sense.

ELP could not release Still You Turn Me On as a single from the Brain Salad Surgery album as an ELP record because Carl Palmer doesn't play on it. (This is a stipulation of the Performing Rights Society I think) Carl plays tambourine surely?




The version of Jerusalem on WBMFTTSTNE was recorded at a US concert and Carl Palmer confirmed in an interview in the early 90's that ELP were not allowed to play the hymn on stage in England (but I agree that it seems absurd that the single wasn't banned from the radio)

Nah, Carl doesn't appear on the track at all.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2010 at 17:18
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Isn't there a Jethro Tull vinyl 7 inch single that was pressed with the name of the band misspelled as Jethro Toe?

ELP were not allowed to play their version of the hymn Jerusalem on stage in England during the 70's (the censor presumably deemed it sacrilegious) This can't be true. It is on Welcome Back My Friends......  And as Jerusalem was a single this makes no sense.

ELP could not release Still You Turn Me On as a single from the Brain Salad Surgery album as an ELP record because Carl Palmer doesn't play on it. (This is a stipulation of the Performing Rights Society I think) Carl plays tambourine surely?




The version of Jerusalem on WBMFTTSTNE was recorded at a US concert and Carl Palmer confirmed in an interview in the early 90's that ELP were not allowed to play the hymn on stage in England (but I agree that it seems absurd that the single wasn't banned from the radio)

Nah, Carl doesn't appear on the track at all.
I can't find any references to Jerusalem being banned on stage - and find it difficult to see how such a ban could be imposed. There are a couple of mentions of it being banned by the BBC (also attributed to Carl Palmer). The BBC had often banned pop versions of classical pieces before then, (because it was mockery apparently), but I think the practice had stopped by 1973 (given that they didn't ban Whiter Shade of Pale, Nutrocker, Night of Fear or Roll Over Beethoven) - however it doesn't show in any "Banned by the BBC" lists that I've looked at.
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According to the coroner report, Steve "Peregrine" Took (the drummer for Tyrannosaurus Rex pre-A Beard of Stars) died from asphyxiation when he choked on a cocktail cherry.

Edited by Lozlan - December 14 2010 at 17:27
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Carl Palmer on Jerusalem:

"We wanted to put it out as a single. We figured it was worthy of a single. In England, they have this format where four or five people have to veto it in before it gets played on the airwaves; it's a very old-fashioned way of doing it, but that's the way it was being done at the time. I think there was some apprehension to whether or not we should be playing a hymn and b*****dizing it, as they said, or whatever was being called at the time. I think it got rejected, I recall. We thought we'd done it spot-on, and I thought that was very sad because I've got a jukebox at home, and that's a piece of music that I've got on the jukebox, so I actually thought the recording and just the general performances from all of us were absolutely wonderful. I couldn't believe the small-mindedness of the English, sort of, whatever-they-are, committee to vote these things onto the radio or off the radio. They could even, really, they obviously didn't even listen to this. It got banned and there was sort of quite a big thing about it, these people just would not play it. They said no, it was a hymn, and we had taken it the wrong way."
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Roger Waters is a jackass.




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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Carl Palmer on Jerusalem:

"We wanted to put it out as a single. We figured it was worthy of a single. In England, they have this format where four or five people have to veto it in before it gets played on the airwaves; it's a very old-fashioned way of doing it, but that's the way it was being done at the time. I think there was some apprehension to whether or not we should be playing a hymn and b*****dizing it, as they said, or whatever was being called at the time. I think it got rejected, I recall. We thought we'd done it spot-on, and I thought that was very sad because I've got a jukebox at home, and that's a piece of music that I've got on the jukebox, so I actually thought the recording and just the general performances from all of us were absolutely wonderful. I couldn't believe the small-mindedness of the English, sort of, whatever-they-are, committee to vote these things onto the radio or off the radio. They could even, really, they obviously didn't even listen to this. It got banned and there was sort of quite a big thing about it, these people just would not play it. They said no, it was a hymn, and we had taken it the wrong way."
Ah, so, it wasn't actually banned by the BBC, it just didn't make the playlist.
 
Wikipedia says it wasn't released as a single in the UK - it was, I own a copy and it's not an import.
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Originally posted by refugee refugee wrote:

Originally posted by friso friso wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

 ^ there is strong evidence Bo Hansson and Jimi Hendrix were in fact the same person; to this day the two men have never been seen together except a brief "meeting" in Stockholm, 1967.  They inexplicably both happened to record 'Tax Free', and Jan Carlsson's drumming was almost identical to Mitch Mitchell's.  I think the facts speak for themselves.  Who's with me?   


Seems right to me..


Strong evidence indeed. Hensson/Handrix is probably the only person known to have died twice.
 
And such a sad thing too ... because he never got the credit he deserved and attention (Bo Hansson)  ... and the Hendrix Estate is being horrible on many other names that had worked with Jimi ... in the end, they are going to kill his legacy and he will become just another pop star with a couple of hits! ... so sad ... such a monster instrumentalist!


Edited by moshkito - December 14 2010 at 19:21
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Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

Willie Nelson is on PA. Do you know where?


Willie Nelson...the only man who gives his pillow face marks.

However, BILL Nelson? (of Be Bop Deluxe)
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A brother of Neil Peart had a musical instrument store in Kingston, Ontario, Canada appropriately called "Peart Music"
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Carl Palmer on Jerusalem:

"We wanted to put it out as a single. We figured it was worthy of a single. In England, they have this format where four or five people have to veto it in before it gets played on the airwaves; it's a very old-fashioned way of doing it, but that's the way it was being done at the time. I think there was some apprehension to whether or not we should be playing a hymn and b*****dizing it, as they said, or whatever was being called at the time. I think it got rejected, I recall. We thought we'd done it spot-on, and I thought that was very sad because I've got a jukebox at home, and that's a piece of music that I've got on the jukebox, so I actually thought the recording and just the general performances from all of us were absolutely wonderful. I couldn't believe the small-mindedness of the English, sort of, whatever-they-are, committee to vote these things onto the radio or off the radio. They could even, really, they obviously didn't even listen to this. It got banned and there was sort of quite a big thing about it, these people just would not play it. They said no, it was a hymn, and we had taken it the wrong way."
Ah, so, it wasn't actually banned by the BBC, it just didn't make the playlist.
 
Wikipedia says it wasn't released as a single in the UK - it was, I own a copy and it's not an import.
 
At that time, not being on the playlist was the equivalent of being banned.  Carl Palmer is right in thinking that the committee did not listen to it - 10cc's Rubber Bullets was banned originally on the grounds that it must be about Northern Ireland (the ban was withdrawn after the BBC admitted they hadn't bothered to listen to it).
 
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