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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2010 at 09:46
I wish I could buy a new Synth but the economy has squashed that dream. Cry  So I was inventive.  i have a 15 year old Digital Piano.  It has like 5 sounds.  I connected it to my laptop and run it through Mixcraft.  I set up a Virtual instrument and effects and from there I connected it to an amp for better control on the final output.  I even have bend control and modulation control.  It may not be a new synth but I can do everything they can do.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2010 at 10:03
Don't underestimate softwares guys. There are really powerful softsynths, i think it's just a matter of choice. There are also hundreds of really useful free softsynths and a lot of cheap ones. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2010 at 11:40
Originally posted by Philamelian Philamelian wrote:

Don't underestimate softwares guys. There are really powerful softsynths, i think it's just a matter of choice. There are also hundreds of really useful free softsynths and a lot of cheap ones. 


"Massive" is a good example (50% off right now!! along with many other NI products, veeery limited offer (in time))
http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/producer/massive/
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2010 at 21:25
Hmm..  I was never a big digital kinda guy but my Alesis Micron imitates Moogs and all popular synths as well as provides a lot of pads.  Mostly though, the Moog is basically perfect, which isn't true of any other imitators I've heard.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 13:59
I was going to go the soft synth + controller way, butI realized getting just a controller and relying on a computer is kind of dumb starting out. I want to be able to jam and perform live, and since Macs are horrible I won't be getting one and I'm only getting a desktop now. Anyway, I've had my eye on the Korg MS200, but sadly I want rich pads (ambiance, etc), and 4-voice polyphony is a no-no. Also, the bargains for that seem to be in rack mounts, something I'm not going to get into now. Similar models like the Alesis Ion I couldn't find anywhere, and I let a JP-8000 go on ebay because $450 is just a bit much for me now.

In the end, if all goes right I have one of these lines up: http://www.vintagesynth.com/ensoniq/ens_esq1.php. Sure, I'm not finding it for a extreme bargain, but $245 is all right for me. I think I'll be getting an effects processor too. I've heard good things about the Lexicon LXP15, but are there any good modern ones going for under $200 that can compare?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 21:25

Here's what you need if you want to really have fun:

 
It is a blast to play with.  You get to be virtual Emerson.  You get to move the virtual patch chords.  You get to wonder, why is there no sound?  Yes I've got a patch chord into the VCO, yes I've got a patch chord into the VCF.  Wait, sheet I forgot the VCA!  Ahh, blessed sound. 
 
It ain't cheap ($250?) but it sure is fun, and you will learn synthesis probably in ways that you never imagined.
 
And you can try to get that kinda whistle-y Moog sound on From The Beginning.
 
Obviously, requires a midi-capable keyboard, unless you like playing keyboard with a mouse.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2011 at 05:37
Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Here's what you need if you want to really have fun:

 
It is a blast to play with.  You get to be virtual Emerson.  You get to move the virtual patch chords.  You get to wonder, why is there no sound?  Yes I've got a patch chord into the VCO, yes I've got a patch chord into the VCF.  Wait, sheet I forgot the VCA!  Ahh, blessed sound. 
 
It ain't cheap ($250?) but it sure is fun, and you will learn synthesis probably in ways that you never imagined.
 
And you can try to get that kinda whistle-y Moog sound on From The Beginning.
 
Obviously, requires a midi-capable keyboard, unless you like playing keyboard with a mouse.


This thing can produce the best sound I've ever encountered on a softsynth. Too bad it's the most unstable softsynth ever: it will bug, freeze, delay, eat hefty amounts of CPU if you try something more demanding. Absolutely unreliable for a live performance. But excellent for studio work if you're into such kind of thing, and if you're patient.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2011 at 21:38
Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Here's what you need if you want to really have fun:

 
It is a blast to play with.  You get to be virtual Emerson.  You get to move the virtual patch chords.  You get to wonder, why is there no sound?  Yes I've got a patch chord into the VCO, yes I've got a patch chord into the VCF.  Wait, sheet I forgot the VCA!  Ahh, blessed sound. 
 
It ain't cheap ($250?) but it sure is fun, and you will learn synthesis probably in ways that you never imagined.
 
And you can try to get that kinda whistle-y Moog sound on From The Beginning.
 
Obviously, requires a midi-capable keyboard, unless you like playing keyboard with a mouse.


This thing can produce the best sound I've ever encountered on a softsynth. Too bad it's the most unstable softsynth ever: it will bug, freeze, delay, eat hefty amounts of CPU if you try something more demanding. Absolutely unreliable for a live performance. But excellent for studio work if you're into such kind of thing, and if you're patient.
 
Thanks for the heads up.  I've only played around with it in my friend's studio, and we didn't encounter any problems.  In any case, I don't have the $ to buy it right now.  It is on my wish list, and maybe the next version, if there is one, will address at least some of the instabilities.    I still would say it is a great learning tool for anyone interested in synthesis.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2011 at 21:16
Originally posted by mono mono wrote:

Try the Waldorf Blofeld.
VERY complete synth for 300$.


What now? Looked into this a couple of times shopping around for my synth, and only the rackmount unit approached $300, and even then it was ~$450-500. The keyboard ones went for $700 minimum, more around $900.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2011 at 00:40
I got an old Yamaha DX7 at Xmas. Although i'm just learning keys, it sounds good to me. However some folk will say it's not a "proper" synth because it does not have real time tweaking capabilities so you could try a Jen SX1000, both of these synths are still cheap to buy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2011 at 06:16
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by mono mono wrote:

Try the Waldorf Blofeld.
VERY complete synth for 300$.


What now? Looked into this a couple of times shopping around for my synth, and only the rackmount unit approached $300, and even then it was ~$450-500. The keyboard ones went for $700 minimum, more around $900.


I got if for 350euros in France, and usually the prices are the same in $ in the US...
Guess I was wrong! (probably because it's made in Germany?)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2011 at 06:40
Oh God no, not synthesizers!!!  Aieee!!! Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2011 at 02:34
Originally posted by mono mono wrote:

Originally posted by Philamelian Philamelian wrote:

Don't underestimate softwares guys. There are really powerful softsynths, i think it's just a matter of choice. There are also hundreds of really useful free softsynths and a lot of cheap ones. 


"Massive" is a good example (50% off right now!! along with many other NI products, veeery limited offer (in time))
http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/producer/massive/

Also Arturia Moog Modular V

http://www.vintagesynth.com/misc/mmv.php

I create my own patches, and it is just brilliant. My strong recommendations!

Massive is also very good (as, in fact, nearly any major modular synth - NI Reaktor or Cycling 74 Max for Live). What I value most about it, is its unique opportunities of waveshaping LFO's. Talking about other NI products, there are also Absynth and FM8, but I think Massive would be better choice for prog needs (Absynth is essential rather for someone who creates ambient/drone et al. it is powerful enough for other tasks - the same as FM8, it uses FM synthesis, so you can create lead synth not any worse in it, - but for atmospheric music it is just the best fit).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2011 at 09:09
I do not own any "real" synthesizer , only midi keyboard.
I play synth leads on free software synth MinimogueVA
it's pretty realistic Minimoog emulation
software models of DX7 and Prophet also sounds good

p.s have someone tried DSI Mono Evolver?






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2011 at 17:46
 I actually just sold a mirco korg a few days ago. Pretty neat little gizmo, got some really nice presets and a decent range of programmable options. The vocoder is nice but somewhat superfluos. I also like the line in option which is fun to use it as a pseudo guitar synth. Theres even a video on you tube of a guy using it to mod a radio broad cast thru the line in. The only drawback is the programming section through its use of the knobs is somewhat klunky. However Korg rectified this by releasing a freeware program that allows you to program it via GUI on your computer through its midi inputs.

Also I would kill for one of the digital mellotrons but that seems to be in a state of flux currently.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2011 at 19:22
Originally posted by awaken77 awaken77 wrote:




I have one. it's pretty neat. You can get some freaky stuff and the leads are great. I haven't spend as much time with it as I should though.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2011 at 19:23
Originally posted by awaken77 awaken77 wrote:

 
p.s have someone tried DSI Mono Evolver?

I have one. it's pretty neat. You can get some freaky stuff and the leads are great. I haven't spend as much time with it as I should though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2011 at 22:20
ARP's are absolutely AMAZING! Definetly better than Moog's and Korg's in my opinion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2011 at 22:26
Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

ARP's are absolutely AMAZING! Definetly better than Moog's and Korg's in my opinion.

Hardly matter for the common man since Korgs are the only things selling for under $5,000, $2,000 if yer lucky.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2011 at 03:27
Software is OK , but general purpose computers are troublesome/not so reliable for live gigs.
Professional musicians, who use a lot of soft synths on stage (like Jordan Rudess), use Receptor or other hardware for running live
Cost of such equipment is comparable to hardware synthesizer


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