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JJLehto
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Posted: November 16 2010 at 13:00 |
Padraic wrote:
Vick is playing his way to an MVP at this point. |
Still hate him as a person, and always will but hell...that's not anything new in sports right?  I give him credit, he's developed into a legit QB. Sure Reid and McNabb helped but it was mainly on him and more so it seems like he's made an honest, true attempt of turning his life around. Guess that's all you can really ask of him. And if this level of play continues, he's 100% deserving of MVP
Edited by JJLehto - November 16 2010 at 13:02
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Padraic
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Posted: November 16 2010 at 13:41 |
JJLehto wrote:
Padraic wrote:
If their offense is so "nancy boy", then the big bad Steel curtain should have no problem shutting it down, yes? |
Actually it makes perfect sense, they got that 3-4 with those big linemen and those big ol outside LB's Doesn't seem quite fitting for stopping that style.
"Nancy Boy" is a bit much to say but I'd agree. Ever since 07 man, Pats run that 3, 4 receiver spread offense throwing 2 yard passes. Wes Welker isn't even like a receiver, he plays in a spread so he's more open and he catches all those little passes.
Whatever works man, but I hate the offensive style and its pretty boring to watch. Annoyingly difficult to stop though.
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I'd be pissed if my team abandoned an approach that's highly effective because random internet people find it "annoying" and "boring". Their job is to win football games. That's it.
If the Giants ran this offense you wouldn't have a problem with it. 
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 16 2010 at 13:45 |
Padraic wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
Padraic wrote:
If their offense is so "nancy boy", then the big bad Steel curtain should have no problem shutting it down, yes? |
Actually it makes perfect sense, they got that 3-4 with those big linemen and those big ol outside LB's Doesn't seem quite fitting for stopping that style.
"Nancy Boy" is a bit much to say but I'd agree. Ever since 07 man, Pats run that 3, 4 receiver spread offense throwing 2 yard passes. Wes Welker isn't even like a receiver, he plays in a spread so he's more open and he catches all those little passes.
Whatever works man, but I hate the offensive style and its pretty boring to watch. Annoyingly difficult to stop though.
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I'd be pissed if my team abandoned an approach that's highly effective because random internet people find it "annoying" and "boring". Their job is to win football games. That's it.
If the Giants ran this offense you wouldn't have a problem with it.  |
Well as I said, if it work it works. No one can disagree. And it did bring you guys to 18-1  And I would have a problem with it, I just wouldn't complain about it!
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Garion81
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Posted: November 16 2010 at 13:59 |
^ Deserving of MVP perhaps but not comeback player of the year
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"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?"
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 16 2010 at 14:11 |
Garion81 wrote:
^ Deserving of MVP perhaps but not comeback player of the year |
Why not? Not that I really care, just curious? It would be one hell of a comeback, or are you going with he wouldn't be deserving because of what he did. He doesn't deserve a "comeback". While I suppose he can't be barred from it, I'd agree. Vick may be turning into a great player but he'll always be a bad person to me.
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Garion81
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Posted: November 16 2010 at 15:15 |
^Yes exactly. The usual criteria usually be coming back from an injury or a tragedy that is not of ones own making. A feel good story. There is nothing feel good about Vick's story. The only thing that should be said for Vick football wise is the waste of time for his former teammates and fans.
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"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?"
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 16 2010 at 17:00 |
Garion81 wrote:
^Yes exactly. The usual criteria usually be coming back from an injury or a tragedy that is not of ones own making. A feel good story. There is nothing feel good about Vick's story. The only thing that should be said for Vick football wise is the waste of time for his former teammates and fans. |
I agree 100%
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 20:51 |
Well, just got home. Thus far been listening on radio but sounds like every the same ol story for the '10 Giants.
Defense playing well but special teams issues, Eli being dumb, and Bradshaw fumbling
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 20:54 |
And looking at the scores, not too much seems surprising.
Bills win over Cinci and Pats topping the Colts seem like the only real interesting results.
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Finnforest
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 21:05 |
Brett. Oh man....ouch  And what do we have to look forward to........Tavaris Jackson. Oh my.
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 21:43 |
^ Yeah, that's why all the "Favre hasn't been benched because he's Favre!" talk makes me lol
Bench Favre for who!? Stick it out and draft/acquire a QB next season.
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Lark the Starless
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 22:10 |
JJLehto wrote:
Well, just got home. Thus far been listening on radio but sounds like every the same ol story for the '10 Giants.
Defense playing well but special teams issues, Eli being dumb, and Bradshaw fumbling
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They're winning 
Let's go Giants
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 22:13 |
Lark the Starless wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
Well, just got home. Thus far been listening on radio but sounds like every the same ol story for the '10 Giants.
Defense playing well but special teams issues, Eli being dumb, and Bradshaw fumbling
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They're winning 
Let's go Giants |
I know! This is how the Giants play. How the f**k they manage to do this every time I dont know BUT Bradshaw just fumbled again it looks like.... We had Tiki. TIKI! The #1 example of a fumbler to a steadfast rock. How can any Giants RB fumble so much?
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Lark the Starless
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 22:16 |
I think they might return the call
His elbow seemed to hit the ground before the ball came out
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 22:18 |
Indeed. But still, Bradshaw fumbles way too much...Jacobs less so but still too much. At least the Giants D is playing well, and have been all year. If they can ever fix the damn problems on offense and special teams...  And god damn it Matt Dodge! A team spends a draft pick on a punter...I expect something good. His punting has been spotty, I suppose that could improve but he is STILL mishandling snaps? And its almost always been on him...
Edited by JJLehto - November 21 2010 at 22:23
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Lark the Starless
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 22:24 |
He does. Darn him!
They have to fix them to be a strong playoff team...or else, bye bye 
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 22:28 |
Dat sum sarcasm? In the playoffs the G-men won't always be able to stop teams when they are starting on the wrong side of the field. Punters can be pretty important... LOL a pick, that is fumbled on the return? This game is nuts  And Eli just ran for a 1st down. Yes, it's settled this game is totally whacked!
Edited by JJLehto - November 21 2010 at 22:36
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Lark the Starless
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 22:47 |
Stupid Eli fumbled!!!
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 22:52 |
Eli + running = nothing but bad And are you a fan (or just hate the Eagles) dont know many Giant fans outside the area...especially from L.A.! Well that was....something. A game of, who blew it less? G-men could've really stolen this but could not capitalize.
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Lark the Starless
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 22:58 |

I'm not a Giants fan but they're alright.
The Eagles are alright too but I preferred the Giants in this game.
I'm a Rams fan 
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