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Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

This review is simply amazing: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=307947

Too funny to be reported.

This is the guy who has his own thread about becoming a collaborator. At first he wanted to be a reviewer and I told him his reviews weren't very good. That he needed to improve them. Thet are not of a high quality but enthusiastic.
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^ Yes, it's our good old arcane. Possibly beautiful.

This guy has a lot of energy and will to carry on, doing these things. But is he able to remedy these bad traits ?
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It seems like this reviewer is taking up the challenge given him and is getting on with it. I have to admire his guts and his attitude. 
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^ No argument here :-)


I have my own demons (when reviewing) too.
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the best phrase is
"traditional Ayreon tradition"
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Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

 
"traditional Ayreon tradition"

The wet water ? I was once invited by a girlfriend to try out some dry white wines. I wisely brought with me a bottle of water in case I became thirsty. It is intelligent to be intelligent.  

Btw. I am hopefully not mean to Arcane. Me too have a lot of language dysfunctional phrases in my reviews. As a sinner, I am not going to throw stones as Arcane..... (a Biblical reference). I just wish him all the best and good luck.

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Edited by toroddfuglesteg - November 02 2010 at 09:00
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He certainly shoots from the hip, but you can't fault the enthusiasmClap
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that's true torodd.  A language barrier is one thing, but whininess and fanboydom is another Wink
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Yes, the difference between a good reviewer (Prog Reviewer) and a fanboy is the ability to see the difference between a 

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I think this form of bird spotting should be encouraged in ProgArchives. 
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Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

  I was once invited by a girlfriend to try out some dry white wines. I wisely brought with me a bottle of water in case I became thirsty. It is intelligent to be intelligent.


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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

He certainly shoots from the hip, but you can't fault the enthusiasmClap
 
Well, this would be hilarious:
 
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CONCLUSION: This was my first Ayreon album, and even after hearing their other efforts, nothing will beat it in my opinion. This might be Ayreons last album, because of certain big mouthed nosed stupid, hipster critics didn't really like this album, which made me sad, because because of those a***holes Arjen decided not to continue the traditional Ayreon tradition, and being an Ayreon fan, made me very angry. Critics need to wisen up, and Arjen should really do it for the fans, not for those awkward cretins.
 
 
If it wasn't so aggressive.
 
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Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

This review is simply amazing: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=307947

Too funny to be reported.

The ''traditional Ayreon tradition,'' huh? Interesting. It's even more interesting how apparently anybody who disagrees with this guy is a lowlife cretin. 


Edited by JLocke - November 02 2010 at 12:33
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Isn't this the same guy who wondered why he wasn't a collaborator yet?
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yep.
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http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=320663
Does someone want to explain the rating system?
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This has probably been brought up before but I think that a review with less than 100 words can still provide a decent review or summary.
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Originally posted by CarvinAbuser CarvinAbuser wrote:

This has probably been brought up before but I think that a review with less than 100 words can still provide a decent review or summary.


Your post contains 26 words - fine enough for a post on the forum, but detailed enough to present a critique of an album? Don't think so, sorry.

Less than four times the post you made is the minimum criteria for a review. It's not really much, is it?

I'll give you an example. I've just posted a (for me) short review of Pineapple Thief's new album. On your criteria, it would have looked like this:

"I think the album is not prog, very poor, and too much like Radiohead".

If we allowed reviews of less than 100 words, believe me, many reviews would look exactly like this. Don't forget, many artists and professional media types visit our site. As far as the artists are concerned, if there is a critique, they at least deserve the respect and consideration of a thoughtful one. So, BTW, do visitors outside the industry.
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Originally posted by Evolver Evolver wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=320663
Does someone want to explain the rating system?
 
  • Average rating: The classic calculation of the average but more weight is affected to the rating of progarchives.com collaborators and to rating with reviews.

    - Rating only: Weight = 1
    - Review by members : Weight = 10
    - Review by PA Collaborators : Weight = 20

    • so:

    1 Collaborator review+rating of 2 (x20) = 40

    4 ratings of 4 = 16
    5 ratings of 5 = 25

    For a total of 81

    Average = 81 / (20+9) = 2.793
     
     
    What?
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    Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

    Originally posted by Evolver Evolver wrote:

    http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=320663
    Does someone want to explain the rating system?
     
  • Average rating: The classic calculation of the average but more weight is affected to the rating of progarchives.com collaborators and to rating with reviews.

    - Rating only: Weight = 1
    - Review by members : Weight = 10
    - Review by PA Collaborators : Weight = 20

    so:

    1 Collaborator review+rating of 2 (x20) = 40

    4 ratings of 4 = 16
    5 ratings of 5 = 25

    For a total of 81

    Average = 81 / (20+9) = 2.793
     
     
  • Smile I meant to the guy who posted the review.
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