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Stooge ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 09 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Status: Offline Points: 1003 |
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It's close, but I'll give my support to Rush.
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harmonium.ro ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
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It's not close at all
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Any Colour You Like ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 15 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12294 |
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Rush obviously didn't stay home and do as it was told, it didn't get out of the road and failed to grow old.
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Pekka ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 03 2006 Location: Espoo, Finland Status: Offline Points: 6456 |
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This is way too difficult, so I just took the easy way out and went with the underdog. Both have albums I don't like that much and some that I absolutely adore.
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Billy Pilgrim ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 28 2010 Location: Austin Status: Offline Points: 1505 |
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I respect your opinion but I really fail to understand it? Gilmour isn't bad, but anybody can bend a string, it's not to diffucult. On the other hand I would love to sit down and have a good laugh while Gilmour tried his best to play the solo from La Villa Strangiato, or anything else Lifeson ever did for that matter, as he is much better guitarist. |
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Pekka ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 03 2006 Location: Espoo, Finland Status: Offline Points: 6456 |
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Yes, anybody can bend a string, no doubt about that. But sit down and have a good laugh while I try to match Gilmour's subtle touch and feel on for example Shine On You Crazy Diamond. I'm sure I can match the speed even with my humble skill, but there's no way I could ever make it sound heavenly. That's one stunning guitar track.
Different guitarists, both great on their own right. "Better" is not a word that enters this discussion if you ask me.
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Billy Pilgrim ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 28 2010 Location: Austin Status: Offline Points: 1505 |
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I disagree, saying Gilmour makes you feel, or saying he sounds heavenly makes no sense. Subtle touch and feel don't impress me at all, I want talent, that's what I base my vote on.
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Pekka ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 03 2006 Location: Espoo, Finland Status: Offline Points: 6456 |
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I could go into the whole "define talent" nonsense as you seem to think that the Gilmourish control of the instrument takes none of it, but I don't think I'll bother.
If I had to choose I'd perhaps say that I prefer the solos of Gilmour and the rhythm work of Lifeson.
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thehallway ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 13 2010 Location: Dorset, England Status: Offline Points: 1433 |
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The main impressive element to Gilmour's work is that it is mostly improvised on the spot.
The virtuosity/beauty argument has a new variable when you consider this.
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Billy Pilgrim ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 28 2010 Location: Austin Status: Offline Points: 1505 |
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I know, and I like Gilmour, no point in my going on with this. I've said it before though, I view Pink Floyd as good song writers, great song writers actually, as musicians they are passable, as artists they are splendid. Gilmour is easily in my top guitarists as well, Lifeson has just blown me away at times though.
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cesarsc ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: September 02 2010 Location: Brasil Status: Offline Points: 31 |
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For me: Pink Floyd, always
thx
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Still a Newbie in THIS forum....
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BlindGuard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 05 2009 Location: Israel Status: Offline Points: 182 |
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RUSH!
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octopus-4 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams Joined: October 31 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 14533 |
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Rush out of this poll...
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17964 |
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I am quite happy that Rush made it to the top 4.....says a lot of this forum of very discerning listeners. I truely respect everyones opinions in the PA forums.
And yes I might be admitting defeat
![]() I personally would have prefered the final to be Genesis vs __________ .
But King Crimson vs Pink Floyd is a decent final.
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Lark the Starless ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 15 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA Status: Offline Points: 1902 |
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Well said
![]() I too would have preferred a Genesis vs (Rush, really
![]() I'll probably vote for KC in the final.
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digdug ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4707 |
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I absolutely love both. If the vote was close I would not vote.
Gave my sympathy vote to Rush
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Prog On!
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harmonium.ro ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
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Dunno if Rush would have gotten to the semifinals had the ban on newbie voting been imposed earlier.
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rogerthat ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
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Sure, anyone can bend a string, but LIKE Gilmour? Certainly not Lifeson, for starters. And, off topic, I don't think just about anyone can bend like this crazy dude Mitch Watkins: I am sorry but vibrato and bending are as important facets of a guitarist's skill, if not more than, speed. After all, their identity and style derives much more from the first two than the last. Now, if Lifeson could dazzle me with amazing chord changes like a Holdsworth or Larry Carlton, I would at least say he finds a different dimension in which to be as or more interesting than Gilmour but his playing lacks flavour and, as I said earlier, is not even as impressive as other heavy rock/metal guitar monsters from his time. He's rhythmically more interesting than Gilmour, I certainly give that. Please don't underestimate the quality of rendering just because there are few or slow notes being played because anybody who claims that is easy is lying or doesn't know for real. It is perhaps more difficult for a singer than for those who play instruments to distinguish themselves with the way they render notes but there is a reason not many sound as beautiful as Latimer, for another example. It's not just a subjective, nebulous feel, he plays the notes more beautifully than many others who can perhaps manage more pyrotechnical gymnastics than him.
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LateralMe ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 25 2010 Location: Santa Fe, NM Status: Offline Points: 115 |
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I vote Rush. I just can't enjoy Floyd.
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A Flower!?
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Billy Pilgrim ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 28 2010 Location: Austin Status: Offline Points: 1505 |
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