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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: November 13 2010 at 11:40 |
Indeed. I can't believe this is happening to tFC (even though I accidentally voted for it as it was the best for me).
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The Truth
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Posted: November 13 2010 at 11:31 |
*Pink Floyd Fanboy Facepalm*
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: November 13 2010 at 11:22 |
Loonytune Digs Walter?
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: November 13 2010 at 11:21 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Oh my God...people are starting to agree with Walter.
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chrijom
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Posted: November 13 2010 at 11:20 |
Good to see Pink Floyd are winning this one!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 13 2010 at 11:11 |
Oh my God...people are starting to agree with Walter.
Depressing.
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pied piper
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Posted: November 13 2010 at 11:00 |
octopus-4 wrote:
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
These are all by pre-89 artists; ergo, they are not the worst of the worst. It is absolutely impossible for these legends to do anything resembling "worst" when the world is littered with inane, hateful and utterly meritless smut produced by braindead post-89 deceivers.
Say "NO!" to new music and say "YES!" to pre-89 heroes!
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I'm not so extremist, but you're not totally wrong...I think there are good exceptions after '89, too.
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I agree. But the exceptions are very few.
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octopus-4
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Posted: November 12 2010 at 12:13 |
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
These are all by pre-89 artists; ergo, they are not the worst of the worst. It is absolutely impossible for these legends to do anything resembling "worst" when the world is littered with inane, hateful and utterly meritless smut produced by braindead post-89 deceivers.
Say "NO!" to new music and say "YES!" to pre-89 heroes!
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I'm not so extremist, but you're not totally wrong...I think there are good exceptions after '89, too. Worst has to be intended as the less good of those bands (synonymous of worst I think, anyway). Not absolutely bad. There are things like GTR for this.
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: November 12 2010 at 10:25 |
These are all by pre-89 artists; ergo, they are not the worst of the worst. It is absolutely impossible for these legends to do anything resembling "worst" when the world is littered with inane, hateful and utterly meritless smut produced by braindead post-89 deceivers.
Say "NO!" to new music and say "YES!" to pre-89 heroes!
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Cristi
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Posted: November 12 2010 at 10:15 |
octopus-4 wrote:
Each band has its worst. Which is the worst of the black list above ? |
so you already consider all these albums as very bad ...
I won't vote because I don't know the PFM album (and I don't care for PFM post 76 anyway) and Magma( I don't listen to zeuhl).
I like a lot of the albums you mentioned there - Camel's, Jethro Tull's (Under Wraps is their weakest effort IMO), King Crimson's especially. I like Love Beach in small dozes (I rarely listen to it but I enjoy it more than The Works, both of them that is and anything they released in the 80s - ELPowell and the two 90s albums they did). The only problem I have with Abacab is Whodunnit but that song is a bad joke anyway. As for Big Generator from Yes, I like it a lot, I consider it better than Union and Open your Eyes which i find to be Yes's least inspired works.
Edited by Cristi - November 12 2010 at 10:29
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Andy Webb
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 20:06 |
Snow Dog wrote:
pied piper wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
Personally I don't think Abacab is a bad album. Maybe not to everybody's taste, but there are no bad songs on the album.
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"There are no bad songs"?!? OMG!!!
Maybe you don't know that Who Dunnit has been billed by 100% of critics and Genesis' fans as the worst Genesis' song ever... and in fact it is.
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So what? He and I like it. Stuff the critics. |
I don't mind Abacab either. I actually really like Abacab, Me and Sarah Jane, and Dodo. (love Dodo, actually).
Who Dunnit? is just a crappy filler song, and I'm sure was more comical than serious when they were writing it. A lot of the music is much more pop than prog, but those three aforementioned songs are great crossovers.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 08:36 |
pied piper wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
Personally I don't think Abacab is a bad album. Maybe not to everybody's taste, but there are no bad songs on the album.
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"There are no bad songs"?!? OMG!!!
Maybe you don't know that Who Dunnit has been billed by 100% of critics and Genesis' fans as the worst Genesis' song ever... and in fact it is.
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So what? He and I like it. Stuff the critics.
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pied piper
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 08:17 |
Moogtron III wrote:
Personally I don't think Abacab is a bad album. Maybe not to everybody's taste, but there are no bad songs on the album.
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"There are no bad songs"?!? OMG!!!
Maybe you don't know that Who Dunnit has been billed by 100% of critics and Genesis' fans as the worst Genesis' song ever... and in fact it is.
On the other way, luckily Dodo is an excellent composition, as much as Me & Sarah Jane, two very beautiful songs.
Edited by pied piper - November 09 2010 at 08:19
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 07:20 |
GTR
Goats Tripping Ridiculously?
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octopus-4
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 07:04 |
St Anger is not here because I don't consider Metallica so important to be in this list of bands, otherwise GTR could have been a good candidate. I can think to a lot of things worse than the albums in the list. Also Love Beach is better than GTR imo.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 06:55 |
^^^ true, theres always someone who loves an album even Love Beach. You cant helpo that altho the majority would not like this or Final Cut as they are bad choices from good bands sold into churning out an album to appease a label or their own inflated egos such as Waters.
St Anger should be on that list too
Dot Com should not be there nor should Big Generator
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octopus-4
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 06:50 |
neither me, but somebody does...
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 06:46 |
i wouldnt crap on Final Cut!
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octopus-4
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 06:29 |
The meaning is "worst by band", not "bad at all". I love The Final Cut but it's considered the worst PF album so it's in the list. Personally I consider The Single Factor a poor album, but I still listen to it sometimes.
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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Moogtron III
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 06:11 |
Personally I don't think Abacab is a bad album. Maybe not to everybody's taste, but there are no bad songs on the album. It's not one of my favourite albums, but that's something else.
Big Generator has some good songs, and some weaker songs, but I wouldn't call it a bad album.
Single Factor: a bit too poppy to my taste, except for a few great songs like "Heart's Desire" / "End Peace", but once again, not a bad album.
Haven't heard the other albums.
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