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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 13:06
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

I used to frequent a forum with a lot of Englishmen, and they would always get touchy when I referred to them as British because they didn't like being lumped in with Wales. It seems I just can't win. Ouch
That must have been a very odd forum. I would expect it the other way around but the English don't normally have that sense of nationalism (or dislike of other nationals within the "kingdom").
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 13:13
Indeed. I rarely describe events here in terms of "in England", usually "The UK" unless the topic specifically relates to one of the Home Nations.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 13:16
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

I used to frequent a forum with a lot of Englishmen, and they would always get touchy when I referred to them as British because they didn't like being lumped in with Wales. It seems I just can't win. Ouch

British would have been fine.LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 13:19
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Personally, I think three cases of being arrested for speech is sufficient cause for alarm.


It's the thin end of the wedge. Over time you'll see a lot more of this. What will change is what constitutes 'free speech'

The transition will be a very slow one, so by the time we get to arresting people for having certain views, most people will be happy for those expressing those views to be arrested. Those who object to it, will be widely regarded as lunatics.

I think it is that fat end of the wedge myself. The concept of "free speech" is all new to us and the ground we have gained over the past 40 years is pretty impressive when compared to how the situation was before then. Concider also that suffrage is barely a century old and in the 19th century there was no "free speech" here unless you were a land owner.
 
The internet is a untried medium for privacy, slander and libel laws so the process of law is finding its way in much the same way it did with every technological shift in media accessibility. There is reaction and over-reaction but it will stabalise into something workable and "right" and not the oppression that some expect it to be.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 13:19
Be it resolved, we will refer to you guys as limeys. LOL
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 13:25
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Be it resolved, we will refer to you guys as limeys. LOL
That's cool. You could try les rosbifs if you get tired of that.  Approve
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2010 at 04:12
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It's the Gaelic form of John - just as Ivan, Juan, Jean and Sean are "John" in other languages.


Mm...Those people who only have hearsay to support their claims to be my biological parents told me I.A.I.N. is the gaelic form of John?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2010 at 04:13
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

It's the Gaelic form of John - just as Ivan, Juan, Jean and Sean are "John" in other languages.


Mm...Those people who only have hearsay to support their claims to be my biological parents told me I.A.I.N. is the gaelic form of John?

They both are.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2010 at 04:17
Well douse my innards in lighter fuel and let off a rocket...just looked it up and yer right. Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2010 at 04:18
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

It's the Gaelic form of John - just as Ivan, Juan, Jean and Sean are "John" in other languages.


Mm...Those people who only have hearsay to support their claims to be my biological parents told me I.A.I.N. is the gaelic form of John?
Gaelic people - wonderful at talking, lousy at spelling.... they also manage to spell it Eion
 
 
 
here's an Americn Ian:  Ian Donald Calvin Euclid Zappa - Birth name of musician Dweezil Zappa
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2010 at 04:24
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

It's the Gaelic form of John - just as Ivan, Juan, Jean and Sean are "John" in other languages.


Mm...Those people who only have hearsay to support their claims to be my biological parents told me I.A.I.N. is the gaelic form of John?
Gaelic people - wonderful at talking, lousy at spelling.... they also manage to spell it Eion
 
 
 
here's an Americn Ian:  Ian Donald Calvin Euclid Zappa - Birth name of musician Dweezil Zappa


Eye doughnt knough whott yewr tocking abought (Sassenach) Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2010 at 04:33
Well, they found out who that student was who threw that Fire Extinguisher off of the roof of 30 Millbank.  I wonder if they they used camera footage or whether people dobbed him in?

I am presuming the latter, as surely it's almost impossible to trace someone through a photograph without any previous evidence as to who it may be?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2010 at 04:35
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

It's the Gaelic form of John - just as Ivan, Juan, Jean and Sean are "John" in other languages.


Mm...Those people who only have hearsay to support their claims to be my biological parents told me I.A.I.N. is the gaelic form of John?
Gaelic people - wonderful at talking, lousy at spelling.... they also manage to spell it Eion
 
 
 
here's an Americn Ian:  Ian Donald Calvin Euclid Zappa - Birth name of musician Dweezil Zappa


Eye doughnt knough whott yewr tocking abought (Sassenach) Wink

Probably because Gaelic ( and other Celtic languages) has so many differences across the regions. No celtic language is similar to another. ( Not quite true.....I guess Scots shares some similarities with Irish, and Welsh has some with Cornish). Plus in all probability these versions of John were originally spoken rather than written
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2010 at 04:41
You also have to remember that the letter J was the last letter of the alphabet to be created.  Before that, the letter I was used instead.

Edited by James - November 13 2010 at 04:48
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2010 at 04:43
Originally posted by James James wrote:

You also have to remember that the letter J was the last letter of the alphabet to be created.  Before that, the latter I was used instead.

There is no "J" in the Welsh alphabet.

And when I say Welsh alphabet, of course I mean the Welsh version of the English alphabet. I guess Welsh would have been runes or something similar until latin script arrived.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2010 at 04:45
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

You also have to remember that the letter J was the last letter of the alphabet to be created.  Before that, the latter I was used instead.

There is no "J" in the Welsh alphabet.
Don't fret Jan, you'll catch-up eventually.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2010 at 04:48
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

You also have to remember that the letter J was the last letter of the alphabet to be created.  Before that, the latter I was used instead.

There is no "J" in the Welsh alphabet.
Don't fret Jan, you'll catch-up eventually.

It's odd isn't it when you think that "Jones" is one of the commonest Welsh surnames. The reason is ( I think) that Jones is in fact an English name and a lot of Jones' moved to Wales during the Industrial revolution and after (Coal obviuosly)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2010 at 04:53
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

You also have to remember that the letter J was the last letter of the alphabet to be created.  Before that, the latter I was used instead.

There is no "J" in the Welsh alphabet.
Don't fret Jan, you'll catch-up eventually.

It's odd isn't it when you think that "Jones" is one of the commonest Welsh surnames. The reason is ( I think) that Jones is in fact an English name and a lot of Jones' moved to Wales during the Industrial revolution and after (Coal obviuosly)
True, it's an English name - Jones = Son of John.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2010 at 04:56
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

You also have to remember that the letter J was the last letter of the alphabet to be created.  Before that, the latter I was used instead.

There is no "J" in the Welsh alphabet.
Don't fret Jan, you'll catch-up eventually.

It's odd isn't it when you think that "Jones" is one of the commonest Welsh surnames. The reason is ( I think) that Jones is in fact an English name and a lot of Jones' moved to Wales during the Industrial revolution and after (Coal obviuosly)
True, it's an English name - Jones = Son of John.

...and we come full circle.LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2010 at 05:12
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